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Re: [2015-03-14] Minutes

From: Andrea Perego <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2015 00:15:13 +0100
Message-id: <CAHzfgWCc=P8uFFzpoJ1PWFNo0HjgfhO7eJHE8cDsCBB=xp5nmA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com>
Cc: Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com>, Simon Cox <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
Just to let you know that I've added the relevant links to the draft agenda.

Cheers,

Andrea

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Jeremy Tandy <jeremy.tandy@gmail.com> wrote:
> Noted. Am happy to do this …
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 4 Mar 2015, at 21:07, Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com> wrote:
>
> The is no intention to exclude any technology at this point, the lightening
> talks in Barcelona are to give an overview of technologies that have been
> mentioned including those in the charter which not everyone is familiar
> with.
>
> Jeremy is very welcome to add a 5 min talk on OWL time..
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Parsons
> Geospatial Technologist, Google
> Sent from my mobile device, excuse thumbs!
>
> On 4 Mar 2015 20:59, <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> wrote:
>>
>> I noticed this in the minutes:
>>
>>     KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing technology
>>     eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic, therefore
>> it has not been included
>>
>> I had raised this with Kerry (because I have proposed an extension to
>> OWL-Time to deal with non-gregorian calendars) but was told it was out of
>> scope for this meeting, which is focussing on use-cases.
>>
>> I won't be in Barcelona, but Jeremy Tandy can present on my behalf if
>> necessary.
>>
>> See refs here:
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Time_References
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Phil Archer [mailto:phila@w3.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015 7:41 AM
>> To: SDW WG Public List
>> Subject: [2015-03-14] Minutes
>>
>> The minutes of today's meeting are at
>> http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-minutes.html
>>
>> A text snapshot is provided below for convenience:
>>
>>            Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
>>
>> 04 Mar 2015
>>
>>     See also: [2]IRC log
>>
>>        [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/03/04-sdw-irc
>>
>> Attendees
>>
>>     Present
>>            Linda, eparsons, phila, YolandaGil, +44.792.021.aaaa,
>>            aharth, +1.857.919.aabb, JoshLieberman, Alex_Coley,
>>            +1.818.393.aacc, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry,
>>            billroberts, lewismc, +61.4.331.2.aaee, ahaller2,
>>            Ashok_Malhotra, +1.412.390.aaff, +44.775.388.aagg,
>>            KJanowicz, ChrisLittle, AndreaPerego, +1.650.724.aahh,
>>            KarlG
>>
>>     Regrets
>>            Clemens_Portele, Simon_Cox, Kerry_Taylor,
>>            Alejandro_Llaves, Ioannis_Athanasiadis, Lars_Svensson,
>>            Erich_Bremer, Rachel_heaven, Jitao_Yang
>>
>>     Chair
>>            Ed
>>
>>     Scribe
>>            lewismc
>>
>> Contents
>>
>>       * [3]Topics
>>           1. [4]Issues around work to be done at f2f
>>           2. [5]Agenda for F2F
>>           3. [6]Conclusions
>>       * [7]Summary of Action Items
>>       __________________________________________________________
>>
>>     <eparsons> trackbot, start meeting
>>
>>     <trackbot> Date: 04 March 2015
>>
>>     lewismc
>>
>>     <phila> ed: Begins the meeting and asks for a scribe
>>
>>     <phila> scribe: lewismc
>>
>>     <eparsons> [8]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes
>>
>>        [8] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-sdw-minutes
>>
>>     PROPOSE: Approve last weeks minutes
>>
>>     <aharth> +1
>>
>>     <phila> phila: Apologises for last week's rubbish minutes.
>>     RRSAgent is running this week
>>
>>     <billroberts> +1
>>
>>     <eparsons> +1
>>
>>     <ChrisLittle> zakim aagg is me
>>
>>     <phila> +1
>>
>>     <MattPerry> +1
>>
>>     <JoshLieberman> +1
>>
>>     <KJanowicz> +1
>>
>>     <Linda_> I dont see my name in the Present list
>>
>>     <ChrisLittle> +1
>>
>>     RESOLVE: Last weeks minutes APPROVED
>>
>>     <phila> I'll add it Linda
>>
>>     <Linda_> thx phila
>>
>>     OGC Patent Call determines that these calls go ahead
>>
>>     eparsons: new people on the call
>>
>>     Alex_Coley: introducing himself on the call
>>     ... contributed very much towards this working group
>>
>>     lewismc: introduce himself on the call
>>
>>     <KarlG_> 1.650.724.aahh is KarlG_
>>
>> Issues around work to be done at f2f
>>
>>     eparsons: next item, spend remainder of call on the issues for
>>     F2F in Barcelona
>>     ... main order of activities to go through use cases, package
>>     them and group then in similar areas
>>     ... common requirements for best practicies in terms of
>>     technology scope
>>     ... looking at those technologies
>>     ... Yolanda has set out an agenda for gathering use cases
>>
>>     <phila> [9]Yolanda's e-mail
>>
>>        [9]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html
>>
>>     <YolandaGil> The organization of use cases for the W3C
>>     Provenance XG is described in
>>     [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0
>>     005.html
>>
>>       [10]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Mar/0005.html
>>
>>     YolandaGil: proposed an agenda for the Provenance Incubator
>>     Group
>>     ... how could we describe or highlight another use case and
>>     manage the contributions?
>>     ... so setting out a plan as described in the W3C Provenance XG
>>     document and the email sent to the list the strategy for
>>     accepting contributions and also managing contributions
>>     ... use cases are important to communicate
>>     ... create 3 sythensizing scenarios (flagship) ideas
>>     ... 1) general web scenario , 2) science, 3) contracts and
>>     industry setting
>>     ... has a team of curators who worked with the authors of the
>>     use cases
>>     ... highlight what the editors are after
>>     ... navigate through use cases to see what they highligh
>>     ... use curation as a mechanism for arriving at the threee
>>     flagship scenarios... this enables the group to work more
>>     effectively.
>>
>>     eparsons: useful input and overlapping with the scoping
>>     questions
>>     ... how long did the curation process take?
>>
>>     YolandaGil: about 2 or 3 months total
>>     ... this work can be combined with other work
>>     ... began to do other tasks in parallel
>>
>>     eparsons: opening them up for questions
>>     ... useful for gathering and managing use cases
>>
>>     ChrisLittle: when you were curating use cases, was it easy to
>>     extract underlying structure or was it more intensive task?
>>
>>     YolandaGil: that was something that was constructed as a group
>>     ... once you abstract away from the use case into the flagship
>>     scenarios they become the groups scenarios as oppose to
>>     personal use cases
>>
>>     lewismc: is there a template for gathering use cases?
>>
>>     YolandaGil: yes, the template has dimensions which represent
>>     the spatial domain
>>     ... representation was something the use cases describe, but
>>     also where the data should be stored
>>     ... 3rd topic was how a user interprets data
>>     ... maybe some template of a similar nature would be useful for
>>     this WG
>>
>>     eparsons: scoping mechanism is a good filter for use cases
>>     ... template to identify common characteristics from across use
>>     cases
>>     ... trial and error approach, we can iterate until we find a
>>     good fit
>>
>>     <eparsons>
>>     [11]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona
>>
>>       [11] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona
>>
>> Agenda for F2F
>>
>>     eparsons: a number of individuals have put together what the
>>     agenda should look like
>>     ... think that the best manner to approach is to split in to
>>     groups then take one requirement for each group
>>     ... spend most of the day doing that with break for 1pm for
>>     lunch
>>     ... after lunch come together to derive common characteristics
>>     ... towards end of day run lightning talks for technologies
>>     overview
>>     ... hard stop at 5:30PM
>>     ... would appreciate some input on how to define subgroups
>>     ... opening up to questions and comments for the agenda?
>>
>>     KarlG_: noticed that OWL Time ontology is not an existing
>>     technology
>>
>>     eparsons: no one has come forward to present on the topic,
>>     therefore it has not been included
>>
>>     <phila> Are you volunteering KarlG_ ?
>>
>>     KarlG_: associated question, many technology incl, GeoJSON have
>>     deficiencies which may make their way into discussion
>>
>>     eparsons: lightning talks act to get everyone on to the same
>>     page.
>>
>>     <KJanowicz> IMHO the talks are just 'selected topics' not an
>>     overview about all details and all relevant technologies
>>
>>     eparsons: will drill into more detail further down the line
>>
>>     KarlG_: will not be able to make it so cannot commit to a
>>     presentation
>>
>>     Linda_: ends at 5:30PM... is that not 6:30PM?
>>
>>     eparsons: No
>>
>>     Linda_: topic discussed at the end, thought that the idea was
>>     to look into general technologies which fit into the best
>>     practicies as oppose to other technologies outside of that
>>     immediate scope
>>
>>     eparsons: lightning talks are only meant to getting everyone on
>>     the same page, they do not represent an exclusive list
>>     ... F2F meeting organizers are going to make use of GoToMeeting
>>     software for remote participants to participate as fully as
>>     possible
>>
>>     <JoshLieberman> When you click on a GTM meeting link, it will
>>     download the app at the time.
>>
>>     <phila>
>>     [12]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_
>>     Evening_meetup
>>
>>       [12]
>> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/F2f_Barcelona#Tuesday_Evening_meetup
>>
>>     phila: minor point regarding bottom of agenda page, Kerry will
>>     be finding a place where everyone can meet up
>>     ... location will be on the wiki shortly
>>
>>     <ChrisLittle> +1
>>
>>     <AndreaPerego> +1
>>
>>     <JoshLieberman> The link to the go to meeting session for the
>>     f2f is already reserved:
>>     [13]https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093
>>
>>       [13] https://www4.gotomeeting.com/join/353923093
>>
>>     eparsons: F2F next week will be no telecon, week after will be
>>     review of F2F
>>
>>     phila: suggests reading long list of use cases prior to F2F
>>     ... please check for day light savings time
>>     ... U.S. is changing DST, so please keep an eye
>>
>>     billroberts: not going to be able to join the F2F,
>>     ... is it possible to submit some 'homework'
>>
>>     eparsons: please put all on to the public list
>>     ... template ideas, general groupings, etc
>>     ... all to the public list
>>     ... these can then be taken to the F2F
>>
>>     ChrisLittle: was trying quite hard to get a health use case
>>     ... possibly produce a health use case
>>
>>     <phila> I added a medical use case this eve on behalf of Erich
>>     Bremer who has joined the group
>>
>>     <JoshLieberman> There are demographic use cases with same
>>     characteristic
>>
>>     eparsons: use cases gathering task will end shortly so getting
>>     them in soon enough would be great
>>
>>     Linda_: upon review of use case, they all seem to be public or
>>     government... with no private
>>
>>     eparsons: I have added some private ones... it is important to
>>     include these
>>
>> Conclusions
>>
>>     <ChrisLittle> bye
>>
>>     <KarlG_> bye all
>>
>>     <AndreaPerego> See you in Barcelona
>>
>>     <JoshLieberman> bye
>>
>>     see everonenetxt week
>>
>>     <KJanowicz> bye
>>
>>     <eparsons> bye all
>>
>>     <Alex_Coley> bye
>>
>>     <MattPerry> bye
>>
>



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