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Re: simplicity or web developer friendliness as requirements?

From: Stefan Lemme <stefan.lemme@dfki.de>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:10:10 +0200
Message-ID: <556EE092.4020102@dfki.de>
To: public-sdw-wg@w3.org

I do feel strong about the "web developer friendliness" too, but more 
from the point of using/incorporating spatial data (when I was already 
able to find it) and not so much about the publishing part.

In particular, I would consider here that respective services offer 
web-friendly delivery formats (i.e. natively supported image formats for 
raster data, (compatible/declarative) 3D formats for vector data, etc.).
In order to maximize the pickup of spatial data by non-experts, such as 
3D-application and web developers, we need to ensure a very low entrance 
barrier.

As pointed out by Linda, simplicity in fact might be not requirement 
specific to spatial data, but it is obvious that currently spatial data 
lacks of an approach to fulfill this requirement while other kinds of 
data (e.g. 3D in general) tries to specifically address this issue.

Best,
Stefan



On 6/2/2015 8:44 AM, Linda van den Brink wrote:
>
> I do feel strongly about capturing this as a principle or requirement 
> or in some other way so that it’s clear we think this is important. 
> Spatial data on the web should be easy to find,  use and to publish by 
> non-experts. While strictly this is maybe not a spatial requirement, 
> it is my feeling that nowadays spatial data is NOT easy to find, use 
> and publish by non-experts. So it’s important to address this.
>
> I put something on  the BP Principles page about simplicity a while 
> ago. Wasn’t sure if it fit there, but it is, as Frans writes, more of 
> a general principle and not a specific requirement.
>
> There’s also another aspect to simplicity we should address: Our 
> deliverables should be easy to use by web developers.
>
> Linda
>
> *Van:*Alejandro Llaves [mailto:allaves@fi.upm.es]
> *Verzonden:* maandag 1 juni 2015 18:56
> *Aan:* Ed Parsons
> *CC:* SDW WG Public List; Frans Knibbe
> *Onderwerp:* Re: simplicity or web developer friendliness as requirements?
>
> +1!
>
> El 1/6/2015 6:15 p. m., "Ed Parsons" <eparsons@google.com 
> <mailto:eparsons@google.com>> escribió:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I agree with the sentiment, we should aspire for simplicity and 
> recognise a broad community of users outside the traditional 
> geospatial community - Maybe however this is best captured in the next 
> deliverable the BP document ?
>
> Ed
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 at 16:27 Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl 
> <mailto:frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>> wrote:
>
>     Dear friends of spatial data on the web,
>
>     There have been several calls for inclusion of requirements for
>     simplicity in the UCR document. While I think simplicity is an
>     extremely important aspect of system design, it seems to be a very
>     general principle, something not exclusively spatial. For that
>     reason I think we can't have requirements like 'spatial data on
>     the web should be easy to use' in the UCR document.
>
>     It is also possible to find some more narrowed down calls for
>     simplicity, focused on web developers particularly, asking for
>     JSON and JQuery support for example, or saying that expertise on
>     geographic data should not be necessary to work with spatial data
>     on the web. I wonder if it is possible to define a functional
>     requirement in the UCR document if this focus is applied. But
>     again, compliance with existing standards and best practices for
>     web development is hard to view as something inherently spatial.
>
>     Are there people that feel strongly about having a requirement for
>     simplicity or web developer friendliness in the UCR document? If
>     so, can you suggest a way to phrase such a requirement so that it
>     is clearly in scope for the SDWWG?
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Frans
>
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