Re: representing public schools

I also checked parks, playgrounds, public libraries and they have the
"Wheelchair accessible entrance" attribute on Google Maps.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 2:24 PM Arnaud Sahuguet <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is the good old chicken-vs-egg problem.
> When I worked on https://schema.org/GovernmentService, I got all excited
> about getting the schema perfect. I don't think I spent enough time
> building some concrete examples for it, e.g. for New York City. And when I
> checked the adoption (via Google Crawl) it was abysmally low. We had a few
> early adopters in the south part of Latin America.
>
> Now being on the other side, it feels a bit like using Lego, but with no
> instruction manual. Yes, you can build something, but it takes time and it
> often does not look polished enough. We also have to convince ourselves and
> the people using the schemas that (a) best is the enemy of good and (b)
> even a subset of the info properly tagged is better than nothing.
>
> For accessibility, checking on Google Maps, I found the generic
> "accessible" for hotels. I also found "accessible entrance" and "accessible
> parking". Could we reuse what they have?
> I also found a 700+ page dissertation on the topic (
> https://d-scholarship.pitt.edu/33172/7/ETD_Dissertation_Benner-9.1.17.pdf
> ).
>
> It seems that "Wheelchair accessible entrance" is the lowest common
> denominator and is non-controversial. Maybe we can start from there. The
> school I am using as an example says "non accessible" (they don't have a
> ramp; they don't have an elevator). So, flagging it as with s:hasWheelchairAccessibleEntrance
> "false"^^xsd:boolean should indicate that a) the entrance is not
> wheelchair accessible and (b) the school is not accessible (implied).
>
> I am surprised this is not being used already. The travel industry should
> be a big user of such a feature.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 1:46 PM Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Note that at least in UK public schools and private schools are both
>> expensive rather than free and state funded!
>>
>> For wheelchair accessibility there should be extensive notes in GitHub or
>> the old wiki but we never finalised a representation - largely because
>> nobody stepped up to implement something consuming it. In absence of such
>> use cases it is hard to settle on a level of detail. But we should do
>> something!
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024, 18:15 Arnaud Sahuguet, <arnaud.sahuguet@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After police stations and fire stations, I am looking at *public
>>> schools.*
>>>
>>>
>>> I could not find a property related to *accessibility*, e.g. wheelchair
>>> accessible.
>>>
>>> The school schema and its parents do not contain anything related to
>>> *grade* level.
>>> Here is a concrete example (my kids's school) where grade is described
>>> using an enumeration "PK,0K,01,02,03,04,05,SE". (source=
>>> https://www.schools.nyc.gov/schools/M185)
>>> The closest is https://schema.org/educationalLevel, but this is not the
>>> same.
>>>
>>> What's the recommended way of capturing this info?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Arnaud
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Arnaud Sahuguet
>
>

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