Re: Schema.org 3.9 release draft for review

Hello Hugo,

[passing over the point that an assertion is not proof that a person 
holds a credential]

You can use the offers property to say where a 
EducationalOccupationalCredential comes from, see the example on the 
EOCred wiki 
<https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Identify_who_offers_an_educational_occupational_credential> 
[0]

But if that seems too indirect and disconnected from what you have in 
mind, I think that awardedBy would be a sensible addition to 
EducationalOccupationalCredential. It has close parallels in the 
Credential Engines CTDL offeredBy 
<https://credreg.com/ctdl/terms/offeredBy#offeredBy> [1] and IMS Open 
Badges issuer 
<https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0Final/index.html#BadgeClass> 
[2], and seems different to the existing recognizedBy 
<https://schema.org/recognizedBy> [3] and doesn't clash with existing 
schema.org concepts around offer/Offers.

We could extend the domain of issuedBy <https://schema.org/issuedBy> 
(There is a discussion around this linked from the wiki page above, in 
it Vicki Tardif pretty much predicts this use case and solution--good 
call Vicki)

On your question about credential category, this might be better:

{
     "@type": "EducationalOccupationalCredential",
     "name": "MBA in Marketing"
     "credentialCategory" :  "MBA"
}

Phil


0. 
https://www.w3.org/community/eocred-schema/wiki/Identify_who_offers_an_educational_occupational_credential
1. https://credreg.com/ctdl/terms/offeredBy#offeredBy
2. 
https://www.imsglobal.org/sites/default/files/Badges/OBv2p0Final/index.html#BadgeClass
3. https://schema.org/recognizedBy
4. https://schema.org/issuedBy

On 02/08/2019 10:59, Hugo Scott wrote:
> Hi thanks for posting this
>
> EducationalOccupationalCredential is exactly what I've been looking 
> for in Schema markup as I would like to be able to prove the 
> credentials and authority of people writing our financial articles.
>
> I see that there is the "recognizedBy" property but what I would love 
> to see would be something like an "awardedBy" property, to open up the 
> possibility of adding an "EducationalOrganization", something like 
> this (I'm not sure I've used the "credentialCategory" correctly) :
>
>         "author": {
>         "@type": "Person",
>             "name": "John Smith",
>             "hasCredential":
>             {
>             "@type": "EducationalOccupationalCredential",
>                 "credentialCategory" :
>                 {
>                   "name": "MBA in Marketing"
>                 },
>                 "awardedBy":
>                 {
>                     "@type": "EducationalOrganization",
>                     "name":"Harvard",
>                     "url":"https://www.harvard.edu/"
>                 }
>             }
>         },
>
> I saw that AlumniOf exists but it doesn't have the same precision with 
> regard to the credential obtained, so would something like "awardedBy" 
> be a possibility for a future version?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 15:16, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com 
> <mailto:danbri@google.com>> wrote:
>
>     Published: https://schema.org/docs/releases.html
>
>     On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 15:12, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com
>     <mailto:danbri@google.com>> wrote:
>
>         Schema.org Steering Group and wider community,
>
>         https://webschemas.org/docs/releases.html is our draft for the
>         upcoming (August 1st) Schema.org 3.9 release.
>
>         Comments etc welcomed here or in Github
>         (https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2306) as usual,
>
>         cheers,
>
>         Dan
>
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