Re: Bibex Entry for Poetry [via Schema Bib Extend Community Group]

Jeff, Richard, All,

I've marked up a Wiki page for type Poem
https://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Poem and TextObject
https://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/TextObject. I feel pretty
good about how Poem is fleshing out, but as I marked up TextObject I wasn't
really sure what to add for properties. So please feel free to chime in and
help out. Thanks, looking forward to what you all have to say.

Best,
- Taylor

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Richard Wallis <
richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:

> Hi Taylor,
>
> I believe there are two aspects to this.  Firstly, as Jeff points, out we
> may well have the need to recommend a new CreativeWork subtype for a Poem,
> which could either stand alone or possibly be defined 'isPartOf' a Book (of
> poems).
>
> Secondly however this does not necessarily solve the problem of defining
> the form of a piece of text as 'poetry'.  For example a description of a
> book of poetry, where each individual poem is not described as such.
>
> The earlier conversation
> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015May/0079.html>
> you referenced introduces the idea of introducing a new MediaObject subtype
> - TextObject - which I believe will help this and other situations in this
> area.
>
> As a starting point, I believe we should create an example using both that
> will address the broader issue whilst using poem as an example use-case.
>
> ~Richard.
> PS. Creating a post is an acceptable way to raise a point within the
> group, however discussions work best in this mailing list, with examples
> posted on the Wiki.
>
> Richard Wallis
> Founder, Data Liberate
> http://dataliberate.com
> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
> Twitter: @rjw
>
> On 3 September 2015 at 14:10, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:
>
>> Taylor,
>>
>> If you're interested, we could create a knockoff of
>> http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Audiobook for Poem and then
>> start to fill it out with details and examples. I usually like to start
>> with a real example or two to see where the gaps are.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: W3C Community Development Team [mailto:team-community-
>> > process@w3.org]
>> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:15 AM
>> > To: public-schemabibex@w3.org
>> > Subject: Bibex Entry for Poetry [via Schema Bib Extend Community Group]
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if I should be making blog posts in this group, so someone
>> stop me
>> > if I'm wrong.
>> >
>> > We need to come up with a way for formatting Poems and Poetry in Schema.
>> > Poetry as a physical entity can be a genre of a book and can inherit
>> many of
>> > Book's properties, so I don't think there's an issue there. Poem on the
>> other
>> > hand seems to want to be a child of CreativeWork unto itself.
>> >
>> > However in this e-mail chain a TextObject was proposed, which is also
>> another
>> > good idea. Either TextObject or Poem would have to include (and this is
>> only for
>> > the sake of poetry), form (villanelle, sonnet, etc), school or genre
>> (Modernist,
>> > Confessional, New Formalist, Slam), line count, and the rest of the
>> properties
>> > could be taken from CreativeWork: author, language, translation, etc,
>> and
>> > some from AudioObject: a recording, and some from Periodical: publish
>> date.
>> >
>> > Of the terms form and school, I think form is really the only one
>> that has to be
>> > included for poetry's sake. School (or mode, even) could be called
>> genre, but if
>> > we make Poetry a genre of Book then we're going to have sub-genres
>> (which is
>> > ok, I guess).
>> >
>> > If we were to extend this TextObject to prose, we would could extend to
>> > creative non-fiction, flash-fiction, essay, etc, through the use of
>> genre (or
>> > mode).
>> >
>> > Anyway these are ideas, I warmly welcome suggestions on ways to fit
>> this into
>> > Bibex. I'm new to all of this.
>> >
>> > - Taylor
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > This post sent on Schema Bib Extend Community Group
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 'Bibex Entry for Poetry'
>> >
>> > https://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/2015/08/31/bibex-entry-for-
>> > poetry/
>> >
>> >
>> >
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