Re: Bibex Entry for Poetry [via Schema Bib Extend Community Group]

Hi Taylor,

I believe there are two aspects to this.  Firstly, as Jeff points, out we
may well have the need to recommend a new CreativeWork subtype for a Poem,
which could either stand alone or possibly be defined 'isPartOf' a Book (of
poems).

Secondly however this does not necessarily solve the problem of defining
the form of a piece of text as 'poetry'.  For example a description of a
book of poetry, where each individual poem is not described as such.

The earlier conversation
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015May/0079.html> you
referenced introduces the idea of introducing a new MediaObject subtype -
TextObject - which I believe will help this and other situations in this
area.

As a starting point, I believe we should create an example using both that
will address the broader issue whilst using poem as an example use-case.

~Richard.
PS. Creating a post is an acceptable way to raise a point within the group,
however discussions work best in this mailing list, with examples posted on
the Wiki.

Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
Twitter: @rjw

On 3 September 2015 at 14:10, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:

> Taylor,
>
> If you're interested, we could create a knockoff of
> http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Audiobook for Poem and then
> start to fill it out with details and examples. I usually like to start
> with a real example or two to see where the gaps are.
>
> Jeff
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: W3C Community Development Team [mailto:team-community-
> > process@w3.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:15 AM
> > To: public-schemabibex@w3.org
> > Subject: Bibex Entry for Poetry [via Schema Bib Extend Community Group]
> >
> > I'm not sure if I should be making blog posts in this group, so someone
> stop me
> > if I'm wrong.
> >
> > We need to come up with a way for formatting Poems and Poetry in Schema.
> > Poetry as a physical entity can be a genre of a book and can inherit
> many of
> > Book's properties, so I don't think there's an issue there. Poem on the
> other
> > hand seems to want to be a child of CreativeWork unto itself.
> >
> > However in this e-mail chain a TextObject was proposed, which is also
> another
> > good idea. Either TextObject or Poem would have to include (and this is
> only for
> > the sake of poetry), form (villanelle, sonnet, etc), school or genre
> (Modernist,
> > Confessional, New Formalist, Slam), line count, and the rest of the
> properties
> > could be taken from CreativeWork: author, language, translation, etc, and
> > some from AudioObject: a recording, and some from Periodical: publish
> date.
> >
> > Of the terms form and school, I think form is really the only one
> that has to be
> > included for poetry's sake. School (or mode, even) could be called
> genre, but if
> > we make Poetry a genre of Book then we're going to have sub-genres
> (which is
> > ok, I guess).
> >
> > If we were to extend this TextObject to prose, we would could extend to
> > creative non-fiction, flash-fiction, essay, etc, through the use of
> genre (or
> > mode).
> >
> > Anyway these are ideas, I warmly welcome suggestions on ways to fit this
> into
> > Bibex. I'm new to all of this.
> >
> > - Taylor
> >
> >
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> >
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> > poetry/
> >
> >
> >
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