- From: Corey Harper <corey.harper@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:39:42 -0600
- To: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org>
- Cc: "Pilsk, Suzanne" <PilskS@si.edu>, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com>, "public-schemabibex@w3.org" <public-schemabibex@w3.org>
Hi All, I just wanted to rephrase Richard's reply in a way that I think better reflects Suzanne's question. It would *not* be "person (is fictional) under "Thing", but rather "person (is fictional) under person". Because people are things (eg. person-things as opposed to corporation-things or musical-instrument-things), the _property_ is defined under "Thing", but extends to all of the more specific types of things. So you can define your Thing as a person, and you have at your disposal properties defined under both "Thing" (the parent class), and "Person" (the sub-class). I hope that helps clarify the conversation a bit. Regards, -Corey On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org> wrote: > Assuming that you define a ghost as a Person, yes. > > Presuming that we lobbied successfully to add a Boolean 'isFictional' > property to the Schema.org Thing class any other class that inherits from > Thing could use it. > > Check out the description of the Person class <http://schema.org/Person> 'A > person (alive, dead, undead, or fictional).' and you will see the five > properties inherited from Thing listed at the top. > > ~Richard. > > > On 08/11/2012 16:17, "Pilsk, Suzanne" <PilskS@si.edu> wrote: > >> This is the discussion that goes on in the library cataloging standards group >> - that crops up when a new batch of catalogers are trained and are surprised >> by the "rules". >> >> >> Casper the friendly ghost - fictional to some, a real ghost to others. >> Lassie - the dog - a real dog - actually played by multiple canines. >> >> I like the idea of a person is a person who is fictional vs taking a "fake >> personality" and making it a "thing". >> >> We have a linked data project in the works with FAKE Botanists. >> >> So Richard, are you saying it would be person (is fictional) - under "Thing"? >> >> Suzanne >> >> >> Suzanne C. Pilsk >> Head, Metadata Unit >> Smithsonian Institution Libraries >> Connecting. Ideas. Information. You. >> 10th & Constitution Avenues, NW, NH2207 >> MRC 154, P.O. Box 37012 >> Washington, DC 20013-7012 >> v. 202.633.1646 >> PilskS@si.edu >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Wallis [mailto:richard.wallis@oclc.org] >> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org >> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person >> >> In the Schema.org world the 'Thing' class is what every other class inherits >> properties from, so a Person, an Organization, a Book, a Product, are all >> Things. >> >> ~Richard. >> >> >> On 08/11/2012 16:12, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote: >> >>> Is a fictional character a person or a thing? >>> >>> Oooh, philosophy! "What is the nature of a thing?" >>> >>> Laura Dawson >>> Product Manager, Identifiers >>> Bowker >>> laura.dawson@bowker.com >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Richard Wallis [richard.wallis@oclc.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:07 PM >>> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org >>> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person >>> >>> The more I think about it, the more inclined I am to suggest that this >>> is a suggested new property for 'Thing' - most any type of thing you >>> describe could be fictional. >>> >>> ~Richard >>> >>> >>> On 08/11/2012 15:55, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I like this very much! >>>> >>>> Laura Dawson >>>> Product Manager, Identifiers >>>> Bowker >>>> laura.dawson@bowker.com >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Richard Wallis [richard.wallis@oclc.org] >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:48 PM >>>> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org >>>> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person >>>> >>>> Interesting thought also applicable for Organization (such as >>>> Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry) >>>> >>>> ~Richard. >>>> >>>> On 08/11/2012 15:35, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Could we possibly add an ³isfictional² tag? To identify characters >>>> (such as Sherlock Holmes)? Some fictional characters will eventually >>>> have ISNIs and we¹ll need to structure data around them. >>>> >>>> Laura Dawson >>>> Product Manager, Identifiers >>>> Bowker >>>> Land: (908) 219-0082 >>>> Cell: (917) 770-6641 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
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