Re: Itemprop for person

Thanks Corey. 

The more ways such [opaque to some, obvious to others] things are described the better.  

~Richard


On 9 Nov 2012, at 15:39, "Corey Harper" <corey.harper@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I just wanted to rephrase Richard's reply in a way that I think better
> reflects Suzanne's question.
> 
> It would *not* be "person (is fictional) under "Thing", but rather
> "person (is fictional) under person". Because people are things (eg.
> person-things as opposed to corporation-things or
> musical-instrument-things), the _property_ is defined under "Thing",
> but extends to all of the more specific types of things. So you can
> define your Thing as a person, and you have at your disposal
> properties defined under both "Thing" (the parent class), and "Person"
> (the sub-class).
> 
> I hope that helps clarify the conversation a bit.
> 
> Regards,
> -Corey
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org> wrote:
>> Assuming that you define a ghost as a Person, yes.
>> 
>> Presuming that we lobbied successfully to add a Boolean 'isFictional'
>> property to the Schema.org Thing class any other class that inherits from
>> Thing could use it.
>> 
>> Check out the description of the Person class <http://schema.org/Person> 'A
>> person (alive, dead, undead, or fictional).' and you will see the five
>> properties inherited from Thing listed at the top.
>> 
>> ~Richard.
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/11/2012 16:17, "Pilsk, Suzanne" <PilskS@si.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is the discussion that goes on in the library cataloging standards group
>>> - that crops up when a new batch of catalogers are trained and are surprised
>>> by the "rules".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Casper the friendly ghost - fictional to some, a real ghost to others.
>>> Lassie - the dog - a real dog - actually played by multiple canines.
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of a person is a person who is fictional vs taking a "fake
>>> personality" and making it a "thing".
>>> 
>>> We have a linked data project in the works with FAKE Botanists.
>>> 
>>> So Richard, are you saying it would be person (is fictional) - under "Thing"?
>>> 
>>> Suzanne
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Wallis [mailto:richard.wallis@oclc.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:15 PM
>>> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person
>>> 
>>> In the Schema.org world the 'Thing' class is what every other class inherits
>>> properties from, so a Person, an Organization, a Book, a Product, are all
>>> Things.
>>> 
>>> ~Richard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/11/2012 16:12, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is a fictional character a person or a thing?
>>>> 
>>>> Oooh, philosophy! "What is the nature of a thing?"
>>>> 
>>>> Laura Dawson
>>>> Product Manager, Identifiers
>>>> Bowker
>>>> laura.dawson@bowker.com
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Richard Wallis [richard.wallis@oclc.org]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:07 PM
>>>> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person
>>>> 
>>>> The more I think about it, the more inclined I am to suggest that this
>>>> is a suggested new property for 'Thing' - most any type of thing you
>>>> describe could be fictional.
>>>> 
>>>> ~Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 08/11/2012 15:55, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I like this very much!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laura Dawson
>>>>> Product Manager, Identifiers
>>>>> Bowker
>>>>> laura.dawson@bowker.com
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Richard Wallis [richard.wallis@oclc.org]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: Dawson, Laura; public-schemabibex@w3.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Itemprop for person
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting thought ­ also applicable for Organization (such as
>>>>> Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry)
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~Richard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/11/2012 15:35, "Dawson, Laura" <Laura.Dawson@bowker.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Could we possibly add an ³isfictional² tag? To identify characters
>>>>> (such as Sherlock Holmes)? Some fictional characters will eventually
>>>>> have ISNIs and we¹ll need to structure data around them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laura Dawson
>>>>> Product Manager, Identifiers
>>>>> Bowker
>>>>> Land: (908) 219-0082
>>>>> Cell: (917) 770-6641
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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