- From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:59:40 +0000
- To: Wes Turner <wes.turner@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-schema-course-extend@w3.org, Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net>, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
- Message-ID: <5697718C.4090804@hw.ac.uk>
Thanks Wes. I think the parts are not always, necessarily sequential. Also I think the actual sequencing strays from what is necessary for course discovery into what is necessary for course delivery, and that is an area that I would like to keep out of scope for now (we can discuss that if you disagree) hasPart/isPartOf prerequisite extension (of some sort) may be relevant relationships. The latter two could be expressed as educational alignments. Phil On 14/01/2016 00:56, Wes Turner wrote: > > CourseUnit < ThingSequence > > * A course may be composed of CourseUnit s. > > ThingSequence < CreativeWork > name > description > > sequence: [ ] > > CourseUnit < ThingSequence > name > description > > concepts <URL> > > sequence: [ ] > > Project < CreativeWork > > Goal < CreativeWork > > GoalSet / GoalSequence < ThingSeq > > Objective < CreativeWork > > ObjectiveSet / ObjectiveSequence < ThingSequence > > Task < CreativeWork > > TaskSet / TaskSequence < CreativeWork > > Assignment > name > description > > dueDate > > EducationalProject > EducationalGoal -> LRMI < Goal > > # (westurner/pyglobalgoals) > un:GlobalGoals < GoalSet / GoalSequence > un:GlobalGoal < Goal > > Set / Sequence > a set is unordered w/ no repeat elements > > a sequence is ordered and may have repeat elements (e.g. a List (or > an OrderedMap)) > > With a multi-track production video editing system, there are multiple > e.g. VideoObjectSequence s; whereas here there are ThingSequence s, > because there could be all sorts of CreativeWork s and Task s to > fulfill the Goal s and Objective s. (This is in scope for course > discovery because Course (or CourseUnit) should derive from (be a > subclass of) e.g. ThingSequence/ThingList so that I know where to add > an (ordered) rdf:List of course materials in a structured way, to > maximize #OER discoverability. > > * I'm on a mobile phone > * there are likely existing schema.org <http://schema.org> classes and > properties that would be more vocabulary-congruent > * there is an LRMI way to do part of this, I'm sure. > > * Project, Goal, Objective > * Educational* > * educationalAlignment ? > * ThingSequence > * s/Sequence/List/ ? (is this already modeled? > * how to create an rdf:List in RDFa? > > On Jan 13, 2016 10:28 AM, "Phil Barker" <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk > <mailto:phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>> wrote: > > On 13/01/16 16:15, Stuart Sutton wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Phil Barker >> <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk <mailto:phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>> wrote: >> >> Yes, I agree that is a valid use case. I think this may also >> be useful in describing how universities offer degree >> programs which are modular. [Language is difficult here, in >> the UK both program and module get called 'course' and I >> think that in the US program is used slightly differently]. >> >> >> You are correct, Phil, terminology in this regard is quite >> different in the US. We'd not use "course" to denote a program of >> study (e.g., set of courses leading to a degree or >> certification). In HE in the US, programs of study >> frequently/usually align with "major" (i.e., "I majored in >> Theatre Arts" being the equivalent of "I pursued a program of >> study in Theatre Arts"). However, we do hear the occasional >> "course of study". >> >> Here are a few examples of actual usage around programs of study: >> >> "A program of study is a comprehensive, structured approach >> for delivering academic and career and technical education to >> prepare students for postsecondary education and career >> success." http://cte.ed.gov/initiatives/programs-of-study >> >> "The programs of study, known as [degree] majors..." >> http://collegecatalog.uchicago.edu/thecollege/programsofstudy/ >> >> "The program of study in a major provides coherence, focus, >> depth, sequencing, and synthesis of learning." >> https://portal.santarosa.edu/SRweb/sr_ProgramsOfStudy.aspx?ProgramType=2 >> >> e.g., "Theatre Arts Major": >> https://portal.santarosa.edu/SRweb/SR_ProgramOfStudy.aspx?ProgramType=2&Program=001067&Version=1 >> >> > Thank you Stuart. > > Regardless of the actual word used, do people people here agree > that these are "some sequence of events and/or creative works > which aim to build the knowledge, competence or ability of > learners" and/or are relevant to the discovery of courses? > > Phil > > -- > -- > Phil Barker @philbarker > LRMI, Cetis, ICBLhttp://people.pjjk.net/phil > Heriot-Watt University > > Ubuntu:http://xkcd.com/456/ > not so much an operating system as a learning opportunity. > -- Phil Barker @philbarker LRMI, Cetis, ICBL http://people.pjjk.net/phil Heriot-Watt University Workflow: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/workflow/ ----- We invite research leaders and ambitious early career researchers to join us in leading and driving research in key inter-disciplinary themes. 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