Re: Unvaccinated people?

https://youtu.be/aiFIu_z4dM8

How did our work provide an opportunity for capitalists to seek to
renegotiate.

Like #DataCollars is a way forward (worldwide) for liberalised democracies
and the governance of #AI.

Brent, don't stress. Lots hear, your the only one with enough strength to
engage.

History has the others pwned.

Bless you.

Timothy Holborn.

On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 6:46 am Brent Shambaugh, <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Surely, I need to spend more time looking at what is and what is not, and
> what you have written:
>
> However, I have a few bugging thoughts that I am trying to get out of my
> head before I head back to what I planned to do today:
>
> Sometimes introducing God leads to a distraction. Occasionally, it leads
> to something academic. However, humans have lived on the earth for
> thousands of years and have recorded what works and what doesn't. No matter
> the technology
> or resources, there are some things you just can't superhero your way out
> of. A few examples could be: jumping off a 40 story structure with only
> jeans and a t-shirt and expecting to fly.
> Completing the circuit of an electric socket and expecting not to get
> shocked. Abusing fellow human beings and expecting no consequence.
>
> -Brent
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:41 PM Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps what this group of human beings on this list needs, is a reality
>> check about the implications of our decisions.
>>
>> Here's one; this was apparently made lawful as a health measure,
>> https://twitter.com/TeabagginZombie/status/1440507783720300549?s=19
>>
>> Where's his #RWW, where he automatically gets all the footage, all the
>> communications, all the media associated not only to his own history: but
>> what happened as others deployed their health measure upon him, said to be
>> lawful & in support of human rights, etc.
>>
>> I understand the list doesn't want to know about any such things...
>>
>> But tell me, for my own piece of mind, how it is that my work, let alone
>> yours, didn't enable this doctrine as they work to deploy apps that it is
>> said, humanity cannot exist without.
>>
>> I think about the Afghanistan, like it's a strategy to ensure in the near
>> future only women will be leaders, as only women wear masks. After all,
>> that's the medical decree for my home state, that was just given "benefits"
>> (subs) via the USA, perhaps delivered on more than a decades time.
>>
>> It is important to understand whether or not W3C stands for human
>> rights.  Is this fundamental, inalienable concept merely written down as
>> they understand it in the context of post WW2 meaningful?
>>
>> Or are documents such as the attached (denying usury) alongside other
>> implications more broadly, part of what W3C and therefore our "free work"
>> to "support humanity" put through a funnel to support.
>>
>> Human rights = UN.
>>
>> How do they apply to www?
>>
>> What is the position of the membership?
>>
>> Has anyone bothered to ask?
>>
>> Timothy Holborn.
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:24 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly,
>>>
>>> I think the biggest concern people have here, is the idea that they may
>>> be publically known for their efforts associated to global protests, and
>>> the underlying implications on humanity, including but not exclusive to
>>> human rights...
>>>
>>> I wish people stood up and talked about their intent for what it is they
>>> dedicated so much of their lives towards.
>>>
>>> Timo.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:22 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've not publically disclosed the serious Human rights related issues
>>>> I've had to deal with, in poverty, as others have sought the commercial
>>>> win.
>>>>
>>>> But there's consequences; some are mocked in independent media,
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/h2nlbEdtVII
>>>>
>>>> People must build castles on stable ground.
>>>>
>>>> Noam (Chomsky) said to me, costs and sacrifices, people are responsible
>>>> for their behaviours.
>>>>
>>>> Can you imagine how I feel, having done near a decade of work, without
>>>> VC funding of a government job as to build #RealityCheckTech to support the
>>>> means for people to employ available trusted information infrastructure (as
>>>> used by government, intelligence, telecommunications, social media, etc).as
>>>> to walk into a court room to tell the truth,
>>>>
>>>> And experience this, as an outcome.
>>>>
>>>> Whilst kindness be demanded.
>>>>
>>>> I advocated for ensuring some sorts of health related #VerifiableClaims
>>>> such as ensuring to know the difference between a human trafficking victim,
>>>> and a criminal.
>>>>
>>>> What drives people? Cause I'm confused...
>>>>
>>>> Seems principals of privacy and such, have been weaponised for profits
>>>> of others.
>>>>
>>>> I've started building a campaign that suggests business owners (or:
>>>> those subject to Vaccinepassports checks) also do a employer check, as to
>>>> ensure they do not accept funds from human rights abusers.
>>>>
>>>> "Show us your LinkedIn profile"...
>>>>
>>>> At least, the sentiment counts.
>>>>
>>>> It's up to businesses to decide...  Moreover, much more than that; but
>>>> how does this stuff help humanity walk into a court of law to be supported
>>>> with digital evidence about lived experiences when telling the truth?
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't.  That was a choice.  I promise to be kind as to not be
>>>> excluded...?!?
>>>>
>>>> I doubt I'll ever know what it means to be a father.  People say, this
>>>> work is "free"...
>>>>
>>>> Ideology is built into the legals, overall. IMO.
>>>>
>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:09 am Brent Shambaugh, <
>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *penultimate => *ultimate
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:07 PM Brent Shambaugh <
>>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard about things being absolutely nuts in Melbourne. It is
>>>>>> important to think about the ramifications of misapplication of technology
>>>>>> in this kind of environment. The W3C as I know is not a law making body.
>>>>>> However, I suppose best practices could be encouraged? The closest that I
>>>>>> can think of is web accessibility. IMO, we used to have a critical mass of
>>>>>> people fearing God* that things did not get out of control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Belief there is some sort of penultimate authority that will
>>>>>> ultimately hold us accountable, and works for a good outcome if in
>>>>>> alignment, regardless of personal or organizational resources.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:53 PM Timothy Holborn <
>>>>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An elderly lady on the radio last night. Double 💉💉 is afraid of
>>>>>>> going to the supermarket because of un-jabbed people. She also said that
>>>>>>> the unvaccinated should be eliminated🤦🏻‍♂️ I kid you not.
>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/armyveteran13/status/1441158879564341252?s=19
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I grew up in a medical family, pathology.
>>>>>>> Par of what is now:
>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=asx:shl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wealth taught me lots as a kid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Part of how I started my works from 2000 leading me here, and my
>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/ubiquitous-au/credentialscgtelecon2015-06-02medical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When seeking to figure out an "identity ecosystem" that served human
>>>>>>> beings, noting, works on things like lowstakes usecases such as tv (HbbTV)
>>>>>>> during the 00's (before I got involved here, or knew much about it).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who else thinks unvaccinated persons (regardless of the drugs? Or
>>>>>>> whatever) should be eliminated?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's interesting as the work started here (inc. WebID &
>>>>>>> web-payments) then led to protests, but people are very quiet like, it
>>>>>>> doesn't matter?  It matters to me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the work I was involved with, with others,
>>>>>>> doesn't support the means for people to take facts to a court to seek
>>>>>>> support of human rights....? I guess it wasn't a W3C usecase. But does the
>>>>>>> non English speaking world care about excuses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After an assult,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies intentionally made a
>>>>>>> hackjob of the UDhr and other human rights charters and related things, to
>>>>>>> see what was done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afaik, nothing.  By all means point me to the ontology. It would be
>>>>>>> great to employ, ATM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We talk about RWW like it's a right for people to contribute and be
>>>>>>> heard via www.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet...  Is this just a place of harvest...?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IDK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pointed out to the Twitter:
>>>>>>> @jack led group links (inc. archive.org links for the videos that
>>>>>>> remarkably still work that way) for old work, that I used, that worked.
>>>>>>> Back then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the problem not one of economics?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't understand human depravity, as a business model.  I'm
>>>>>>> surprised W3C members do, indeed, I don't understand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>