Re: Unvaccinated people?

Fwiw there was a historical earthquake in Mansfield, where I started this
W3C work,

As others were protesting on the war memorial.

I think God is listening.

(Unless anyone wants to talk about energy weapons...)

On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 6:50 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/aiFIu_z4dM8
>
> How did our work provide an opportunity for capitalists to seek to
> renegotiate.
>
> Like #DataCollars is a way forward (worldwide) for liberalised democracies
> and the governance of #AI.
>
> Brent, don't stress. Lots hear, your the only one with enough strength to
> engage.
>
> History has the others pwned.
>
> Bless you.
>
> Timothy Holborn.
>
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 6:46 am Brent Shambaugh, <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Surely, I need to spend more time looking at what is and what is not, and
>> what you have written:
>>
>> However, I have a few bugging thoughts that I am trying to get out of my
>> head before I head back to what I planned to do today:
>>
>> Sometimes introducing God leads to a distraction. Occasionally, it leads
>> to something academic. However, humans have lived on the earth for
>> thousands of years and have recorded what works and what doesn't. No matter
>> the technology
>> or resources, there are some things you just can't superhero your way out
>> of. A few examples could be: jumping off a 40 story structure with only
>> jeans and a t-shirt and expecting to fly.
>> Completing the circuit of an electric socket and expecting not to get
>> shocked. Abusing fellow human beings and expecting no consequence.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:41 PM Timothy Holborn <
>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps what this group of human beings on this list needs, is a reality
>>> check about the implications of our decisions.
>>>
>>> Here's one; this was apparently made lawful as a health measure,
>>> https://twitter.com/TeabagginZombie/status/1440507783720300549?s=19
>>>
>>> Where's his #RWW, where he automatically gets all the footage, all the
>>> communications, all the media associated not only to his own history: but
>>> what happened as others deployed their health measure upon him, said to be
>>> lawful & in support of human rights, etc.
>>>
>>> I understand the list doesn't want to know about any such things...
>>>
>>> But tell me, for my own piece of mind, how it is that my work, let alone
>>> yours, didn't enable this doctrine as they work to deploy apps that it is
>>> said, humanity cannot exist without.
>>>
>>> I think about the Afghanistan, like it's a strategy to ensure in the
>>> near future only women will be leaders, as only women wear masks. After
>>> all, that's the medical decree for my home state, that was just given
>>> "benefits" (subs) via the USA, perhaps delivered on more than a decades
>>> time.
>>>
>>> It is important to understand whether or not W3C stands for human
>>> rights.  Is this fundamental, inalienable concept merely written down as
>>> they understand it in the context of post WW2 meaningful?
>>>
>>> Or are documents such as the attached (denying usury) alongside other
>>> implications more broadly, part of what W3C and therefore our "free work"
>>> to "support humanity" put through a funnel to support.
>>>
>>> Human rights = UN.
>>>
>>> How do they apply to www?
>>>
>>> What is the position of the membership?
>>>
>>> Has anyone bothered to ask?
>>>
>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:24 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Honestly,
>>>>
>>>> I think the biggest concern people have here, is the idea that they may
>>>> be publically known for their efforts associated to global protests, and
>>>> the underlying implications on humanity, including but not exclusive to
>>>> human rights...
>>>>
>>>> I wish people stood up and talked about their intent for what it is
>>>> they dedicated so much of their lives towards.
>>>>
>>>> Timo.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:22 am Timothy Holborn, <
>>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've not publically disclosed the serious Human rights related issues
>>>>> I've had to deal with, in poverty, as others have sought the commercial
>>>>> win.
>>>>>
>>>>> But there's consequences; some are mocked in independent media,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/h2nlbEdtVII
>>>>>
>>>>> People must build castles on stable ground.
>>>>>
>>>>> Noam (Chomsky) said to me, costs and sacrifices, people are
>>>>> responsible for their behaviours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you imagine how I feel, having done near a decade of work, without
>>>>> VC funding of a government job as to build #RealityCheckTech to support the
>>>>> means for people to employ available trusted information infrastructure (as
>>>>> used by government, intelligence, telecommunications, social media, etc).as
>>>>> to walk into a court room to tell the truth,
>>>>>
>>>>> And experience this, as an outcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whilst kindness be demanded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I advocated for ensuring some sorts of health related
>>>>> #VerifiableClaims such as ensuring to know the difference between a human
>>>>> trafficking victim, and a criminal.
>>>>>
>>>>> What drives people? Cause I'm confused...
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems principals of privacy and such, have been weaponised for profits
>>>>> of others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've started building a campaign that suggests business owners (or:
>>>>> those subject to Vaccinepassports checks) also do a employer check, as to
>>>>> ensure they do not accept funds from human rights abusers.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Show us your LinkedIn profile"...
>>>>>
>>>>> At least, the sentiment counts.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's up to businesses to decide...  Moreover, much more than that; but
>>>>> how does this stuff help humanity walk into a court of law to be supported
>>>>> with digital evidence about lived experiences when telling the truth?
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't.  That was a choice.  I promise to be kind as to not be
>>>>> excluded...?!?
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt I'll ever know what it means to be a father.  People say, this
>>>>> work is "free"...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideology is built into the legals, overall. IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:09 am Brent Shambaugh, <
>>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *penultimate => *ultimate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:07 PM Brent Shambaugh <
>>>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard about things being absolutely nuts in Melbourne. It is
>>>>>>> important to think about the ramifications of misapplication of technology
>>>>>>> in this kind of environment. The W3C as I know is not a law making body.
>>>>>>> However, I suppose best practices could be encouraged? The closest that I
>>>>>>> can think of is web accessibility. IMO, we used to have a critical mass of
>>>>>>> people fearing God* that things did not get out of control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Belief there is some sort of penultimate authority that will
>>>>>>> ultimately hold us accountable, and works for a good outcome if in
>>>>>>> alignment, regardless of personal or organizational resources.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:53 PM Timothy Holborn <
>>>>>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An elderly lady on the radio last night. Double 💉💉 is afraid of
>>>>>>>> going to the supermarket because of un-jabbed people. She also said that
>>>>>>>> the unvaccinated should be eliminated🤦🏻‍♂️ I kid you not.
>>>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/armyveteran13/status/1441158879564341252?s=19
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I grew up in a medical family, pathology.
>>>>>>>> Par of what is now:
>>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=asx:shl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The wealth taught me lots as a kid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Part of how I started my works from 2000 leading me here, and my
>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/ubiquitous-au/credentialscgtelecon2015-06-02medical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When seeking to figure out an "identity ecosystem" that served
>>>>>>>> human beings, noting, works on things like lowstakes usecases such as tv
>>>>>>>> (HbbTV) during the 00's (before I got involved here, or knew much about
>>>>>>>> it).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who else thinks unvaccinated persons (regardless of the drugs? Or
>>>>>>>> whatever) should be eliminated?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's interesting as the work started here (inc. WebID &
>>>>>>>> web-payments) then led to protests, but people are very quiet like, it
>>>>>>>> doesn't matter?  It matters to me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the work I was involved with, with others,
>>>>>>>> doesn't support the means for people to take facts to a court to seek
>>>>>>>> support of human rights....? I guess it wasn't a W3C usecase. But does the
>>>>>>>> non English speaking world care about excuses?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After an assult,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies intentionally made a
>>>>>>>> hackjob of the UDhr and other human rights charters and related things, to
>>>>>>>> see what was done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Afaik, nothing.  By all means point me to the ontology. It would be
>>>>>>>> great to employ, ATM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We talk about RWW like it's a right for people to contribute and be
>>>>>>>> heard via www.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet...  Is this just a place of harvest...?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IDK.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I pointed out to the Twitter:
>>>>>>>> @jack led group links (inc. archive.org links for the videos that
>>>>>>>> remarkably still work that way) for old work, that I used, that worked.
>>>>>>>> Back then.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the problem not one of economics?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't understand human depravity, as a business model.  I'm
>>>>>>>> surprised W3C members do, indeed, I don't understand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>