Re: Unvaccinated people?

Surely, I need to spend more time looking at what is and what is not, and
what you have written:

However, I have a few bugging thoughts that I am trying to get out of my
head before I head back to what I planned to do today:

Sometimes introducing God leads to a distraction. Occasionally, it leads to
something academic. However, humans have lived on the earth for thousands
of years and have recorded what works and what doesn't. No matter the
technology
or resources, there are some things you just can't superhero your way out
of. A few examples could be: jumping off a 40 story structure with only
jeans and a t-shirt and expecting to fly.
Completing the circuit of an electric socket and expecting not to get
shocked. Abusing fellow human beings and expecting no consequence.

-Brent

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:41 PM Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps what this group of human beings on this list needs, is a reality
> check about the implications of our decisions.
>
> Here's one; this was apparently made lawful as a health measure,
> https://twitter.com/TeabagginZombie/status/1440507783720300549?s=19
>
> Where's his #RWW, where he automatically gets all the footage, all the
> communications, all the media associated not only to his own history: but
> what happened as others deployed their health measure upon him, said to be
> lawful & in support of human rights, etc.
>
> I understand the list doesn't want to know about any such things...
>
> But tell me, for my own piece of mind, how it is that my work, let alone
> yours, didn't enable this doctrine as they work to deploy apps that it is
> said, humanity cannot exist without.
>
> I think about the Afghanistan, like it's a strategy to ensure in the near
> future only women will be leaders, as only women wear masks. After all,
> that's the medical decree for my home state, that was just given "benefits"
> (subs) via the USA, perhaps delivered on more than a decades time.
>
> It is important to understand whether or not W3C stands for human rights.
> Is this fundamental, inalienable concept merely written down as they
> understand it in the context of post WW2 meaningful?
>
> Or are documents such as the attached (denying usury) alongside other
> implications more broadly, part of what W3C and therefore our "free work"
> to "support humanity" put through a funnel to support.
>
> Human rights = UN.
>
> How do they apply to www?
>
> What is the position of the membership?
>
> Has anyone bothered to ask?
>
> Timothy Holborn.
>
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:24 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Honestly,
>>
>> I think the biggest concern people have here, is the idea that they may
>> be publically known for their efforts associated to global protests, and
>> the underlying implications on humanity, including but not exclusive to
>> human rights...
>>
>> I wish people stood up and talked about their intent for what it is they
>> dedicated so much of their lives towards.
>>
>> Timo.
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:22 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've not publically disclosed the serious Human rights related issues
>>> I've had to deal with, in poverty, as others have sought the commercial
>>> win.
>>>
>>> But there's consequences; some are mocked in independent media,
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/h2nlbEdtVII
>>>
>>> People must build castles on stable ground.
>>>
>>> Noam (Chomsky) said to me, costs and sacrifices, people are responsible
>>> for their behaviours.
>>>
>>> Can you imagine how I feel, having done near a decade of work, without
>>> VC funding of a government job as to build #RealityCheckTech to support the
>>> means for people to employ available trusted information infrastructure (as
>>> used by government, intelligence, telecommunications, social media, etc).as
>>> to walk into a court room to tell the truth,
>>>
>>> And experience this, as an outcome.
>>>
>>> Whilst kindness be demanded.
>>>
>>> I advocated for ensuring some sorts of health related #VerifiableClaims
>>> such as ensuring to know the difference between a human trafficking victim,
>>> and a criminal.
>>>
>>> What drives people? Cause I'm confused...
>>>
>>> Seems principals of privacy and such, have been weaponised for profits
>>> of others.
>>>
>>> I've started building a campaign that suggests business owners (or:
>>> those subject to Vaccinepassports checks) also do a employer check, as to
>>> ensure they do not accept funds from human rights abusers.
>>>
>>> "Show us your LinkedIn profile"...
>>>
>>> At least, the sentiment counts.
>>>
>>> It's up to businesses to decide...  Moreover, much more than that; but
>>> how does this stuff help humanity walk into a court of law to be supported
>>> with digital evidence about lived experiences when telling the truth?
>>>
>>> It doesn't.  That was a choice.  I promise to be kind as to not be
>>> excluded...?!?
>>>
>>> I doubt I'll ever know what it means to be a father.  People say, this
>>> work is "free"...
>>>
>>> Ideology is built into the legals, overall. IMO.
>>>
>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 5:09 am Brent Shambaugh, <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *penultimate => *ultimate
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 2:07 PM Brent Shambaugh <
>>>> brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've heard about things being absolutely nuts in Melbourne. It is
>>>>> important to think about the ramifications of misapplication of technology
>>>>> in this kind of environment. The W3C as I know is not a law making body.
>>>>> However, I suppose best practices could be encouraged? The closest that I
>>>>> can think of is web accessibility. IMO, we used to have a critical mass of
>>>>> people fearing God* that things did not get out of control.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Belief there is some sort of penultimate authority that will
>>>>> ultimately hold us accountable, and works for a good outcome if in
>>>>> alignment, regardless of personal or organizational resources.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 1:53 PM Timothy Holborn <
>>>>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> An elderly lady on the radio last night. Double 💉💉 is afraid of
>>>>>> going to the supermarket because of un-jabbed people. She also said that
>>>>>> the unvaccinated should be eliminated🤦🏻‍♂️ I kid you not.
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/armyveteran13/status/1441158879564341252?s=19
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I grew up in a medical family, pathology.
>>>>>> Par of what is now:
>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=asx:shl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The wealth taught me lots as a kid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Part of how I started my works from 2000 leading me here, and my
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://soundcloud.com/ubiquitous-au/credentialscgtelecon2015-06-02medical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When seeking to figure out an "identity ecosystem" that served human
>>>>>> beings, noting, works on things like lowstakes usecases such as tv (HbbTV)
>>>>>> during the 00's (before I got involved here, or knew much about it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who else thinks unvaccinated persons (regardless of the drugs? Or
>>>>>> whatever) should be eliminated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's interesting as the work started here (inc. WebID & web-payments)
>>>>>> then led to protests, but people are very quiet like, it doesn't matter?
>>>>>> It matters to me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I can tell, the work I was involved with, with others,
>>>>>> doesn't support the means for people to take facts to a court to seek
>>>>>> support of human rights....? I guess it wasn't a W3C usecase. But does the
>>>>>> non English speaking world care about excuses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After an assult,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies intentionally made a hackjob
>>>>>> of the UDhr and other human rights charters and related things, to see what
>>>>>> was done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afaik, nothing.  By all means point me to the ontology. It would be
>>>>>> great to employ, ATM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We talk about RWW like it's a right for people to contribute and be
>>>>>> heard via www.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet...  Is this just a place of harvest...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IDK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I pointed out to the Twitter:
>>>>>> @jack led group links (inc. archive.org links for the videos that
>>>>>> remarkably still work that way) for old work, that I used, that worked.
>>>>>> Back then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the problem not one of economics?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand human depravity, as a business model.  I'm
>>>>>> surprised W3C members do, indeed, I don't understand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Timothy Holborn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>