Re: webizen: sustainability linked considerations

realised the links didn't come through; so, fixing, for temporal purposes,
etc.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 02:38, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> started on a document that's seeking to figure out how to ensure people
> who aren't being paid to do this sort of work by companies or governments;
> are able to maintain dignity, whilst seeking to (and successfully doing)
> useful work, for the betterment of mankind[1]
>
> The document[1] is open (ie: edit permissions enabled).  text as of this
> point is as follows;  i note - i'm happy to provide webizen.org towards
> any such initiative, and also note that it does not appear
> https://www.w3.org/community/webizen exist (notwithstanding some heritage
> linked to the term)...
>
> IF this sort of thing IS going to be made able to work, it'll require
> tools & stuff (inc. investment); which is kinda the point, about
> illustrating the considerations therein...
>
> (FWIW:  i've done a few years working towards this kind of thing, as 'web
> civics', but that's been really badly sullied, and frankly, parallel paths;
> bigger issues than just me).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Timothy Holborn.
>
> Introductory Considerations
>
> The practice of undertaking useful[1], Innovative[2] work[3] in relation
> to Cyber[4] infrastructure[5] for the betterment of our natural world,
> biosphere, societies & humanity at large - requires the input of natural
> persons acting as agent on behalf of themselves and through that lens,
> human kind…
>
>
> This has traditionally been considered to be a form of ‘hobby’ or
> something other than ‘work’.  Various regulatory, legal and other
> humanitarian cohorts make considerations about work or ‘work rights’
> including the UN[6] that are not easily displayed in a legally defensible
> manner as ‘compliant protocols’.
>
> This in-turn; transposes to a complex problem area of defining
> ‘usefulness’ of ‘work’ and its associative economic linkages, in various
> ways.  Furthermore; there are a number of important ‘temporal’ factors that
> have meaningful interactions with how it is ‘useful work’, be defined.
>
> The easiest way power can subvert fairness is to eradicate an innovator
> only to illustrate the same concept later on, using different vocabulary
> (or language) and/or with different ‘exploits’ employed, for gainful
> purposes.  Connected to this problem, is a link to the cost of lawful
> redress for acts causing injury; which is made particularly more
> problematic, when considered on a world-wide basis.
>
> Principals.
>
> There are a bunch of principles linked to humanitarian considerations of
> ‘fairness’ when linked to acts and/or expenditure of time & energy, upon
> fields of work (as distinct, to recreation and sleep). This was made clear
> some time ago as a consequence of the uprising known as the ‘8 hour work’
> movement[8]
>
> It is the purpose of persons involved in ‘good works’ to act in accordance
> with the philosophical principles linked to ‘rule of law’ and/or ‘common
> sense’ as is a prerequisite for being ‘judged by one's peers’ in a court of
> law; by association to ‘charges’ made against a person, that suggests they
> were engaged in wrongs, causing injury and/or harm and/or unlawful
> behaviour.
>
> It is not the place of ‘technical standards bodies’ or related corpus /
> groups - to subvert ‘rule of law’ or human rights principles more broadly.
>
> Open Internet Standards Governance[9][10]
>
> Internet society has spoken about a ‘chapter toolkit’[11] that in-turn
> references a concept ‘open stand’[12].  There is a method to create an
> international ‘topic chapter’[13][14] which in-turn ends-up producing a
> ‘legal entity’ that is able to curate financial flows (manage money, etc.).
>
> A potential governance (more sustainable) solution?
>
> The concept of ‘corporation’ comes from latin ‘body of people’[15].  This
> heritage is believed to still be legally supported by law throughout the
> world; although, many adaptations from it, have different consequential
> structures, meaningings, implications, etc.
>
> One of the many ways illustrated about how new structures could be made to
> work include the examples provided by slicing pie[16][17] and[/or] open
> collective[18]; yet there is a linked association between the means to
> support ‘common legitimacy’ of sovereign nations and inter-national
> world-order[19] and the cyber production works (and who does it) to create
> and/or engender a derivative outcome to support that form of ideologically
> bonded consideration and related works.
>
> Therein - I believe (links sought / required) that the means through which
> a contract is able to be considered binding; is that it must have
> consideration / benefit, for both (or many) parties involved.
>
> A contract that requires one party to ‘agree’ and provide; without benefit
> to the provider (of value, which is in-turn linked to the purpose of having
> any agreement whatsoever) is in-effect, not lawfully enforceable (link
> required to interpretative precedent / examples / etc.).
>
> AND SO THEREFORE: any contract, that is ‘tainted’ by ‘immoral conditions’
> (ie: slave labour and/or the gainful use of other peoples work derivatives,
> without lawful consideration and/or unlawful perversions of that work) is
> non-binding.  In-order to ensure compliance with protocols that require
> mutual benefit, a means to address these underlying issues is required as a
> matter of hygiene, probity & procedural fairness (alongside proper
> acknowledgement frameworks).
>
> Defining a ‘foundation’ that can support how we can socio-economically
> support those who do work that is required to support us, our societies
> (more broadly); and, how it is we define what it is that means…
>
>
> Links
>
> [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+useful
>
> [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+innovative
> [3] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+w
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=define+work>
>
>
>
links per the present document (intended to be draft / future iteratively
produce work, with others).

Links

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+useful

[2] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+innovative

[3] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+work

[4] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+cyber

[5] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+infrastructure

[6] https://www.google.com/search?q=define+betterment

[7] https://www.google.com/search?q=work+rights+UN

[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day

[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_governance

[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_governance#/media/File:Who-Runs-the-Internet-graphic.png


[11]
https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/resources/open-internet-standards-chapter-toolkit/

[12] https://open-stand.org/

[13] https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/start/

[14] https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/start/application/

[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation#History

[16] https://slicingpie.com/the-grunt-fund-calculator/

[17] https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aslicingpie.com+filetype%3Apdf

[18] https://opencollective.com/

[19]
https://www.chathamhouse.org/events/all/members-event/future-liberal-democracies-conversation-henry-kissinger





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