Re: Coherent (modern) definition of RWW

On 5/18/21 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:19 PM Tomasz Pluskiewicz <tomasz@t-code.pl
> <mailto:tomasz@t-code.pl>> wrote:
>
>
>     And yet isn’t most software worldwide plain JSON over HTTP, with
>     some RAML or Open API if you’re lucky?
>
>     But I think I will stop here, since we appear to be getting nowhere :)
>
>
> Agree on both points, seeing this degenerate into httpRange-14,
> confusion over resource vs representation, confusion over protocols vs
> abstract concepts, of the duality of resource names, is a pity indeed.
>
> Regarding JSON over HTTP, could that not be a part of RWW?


Yes, IMHO.

In my experience JSON is just another combined structured data
representation notation and content serialization format.

It is a shame that RDF as a formalization of EAV has lead to so much
confusion re:

1. Structured Data Definition Language

2. Structured Data Representation Notation

3. Structured Data Serialization Format

Our Structured Data Sniffer happily transforms JSON and CSV to RDF
whenever said transformation is requested by a user.


> If we focus on being media type agnostic, and avoid rdf/linked data
> completely, then it'll work for everything, which includes linked
> data. Focus on the super set.


Yep!

The Super Set should always be the point of focus if interoperability is
the goal. That's a classic route to more "AND" and less "OR" .


>
> Tomasz, fwiw Melvin & I were playing around with linkedobjects some
> time ago, like a mini version of json-ld that you stick in data
> islands, then access automatically via globalThis, is was actually v
> simple to both implement and use, like a 5 line shim that made json-ld
> and json accessible in a nice way.


Yep!


Links:

[1] Structured Data Sniffer for Chromium Browsers
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/openlink-structured-data/egdaiaihbdoiibopledjahjaihbmjhdj?hl=en>

[2] Structured Data Sniffer for Firefox
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/openlink-structured-data-sniff/>



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