- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 12:13:51 -0400
- To: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <9d42d2f0-9d03-9d9f-94de-e88557eb74be@openlinksw.com>
On 5/14/21 3:26 PM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
> Sorry, re: clarifications,
>
> What did it do back in ~2011/2 when I first installed it? (Vs. now?).
> I can pull the dates, but you likely have them in your licensing
> server?? I was trying to do a POC via building a heritage capability
> as an initial usecase, at the time.... (supporting a Hysterical/
> historical society)...
>
> Does it have more functionality since then? I assumed the answer was
> "yes" particularly given the status of "web payments" (pre
> credentials), way back then (before I ended up on the lists,
> something, I didn't consider would ever happen in my life, at the time)...
>
> Limitations linked to creating a knowledge banking framework. I
> started concepts in 2000 ("information bank" or ibank) which
> progressed to "knowledge banking" circa 2011/2012 after doing some
> work "updating" old work, from mid 2010 (indigenous application
> started 2009/10)..
>
> I think you're first "dataspaces" demo was 2007??? V.interested in
> "temporal web" / provenance solutions....
>
> Dignity enhancing web (vs. web slavery, or worse).
>
> Timothy Holborn.
Hi Timothy,
Regarding Identity, Identification, Authentication, and Authorization
nothing has changed in Virtuoso.
What has changed outside Virtuoso, via complimentary tools and services
that we provide are as follows:
[1] Browser Extensions for creating Private Keys, X.509 Certificates,
Identifiers (WebIDs and NetIDs), and associated Profile Docs --
basically, killing the headache left by predictable demise of <keygen/>
[2] Setting up WebID-TLS + Delegation from a Browser so that the whole
thing "just works" and users aren't exposed to what they may perceive as
complexity re entity relationship type (and associated semantics)
triangulation
The implications of the above are as follows, using a Chromium or
Mozilla browser:
[1] You can create credentials using your browser that are stored to an
OS-provided Keystore (e.g., macOS Keychain) or PKCS#12 file
[2] You can write data to a Data Space (e.g., OpenLink Data Spaces or
Solid Pod) subject to ACLs using WebID-TLS (with Delegation if so
desired i.e., kill off the UI/UX issues associated with browser restarts
since Person and their User Agents have distinguished, but related identity)
Tools that demonstrate these capabilities include:
[1] YouID <http://youid.openlinksw.com/>
[2] OpenLink Structured Data Sniffer
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/openlink-structured-data/egdaiaihbdoiibopledjahjaihbmjhdj?hl=en>
[3] OpenLink Structured Data Sniffer for Mozilla
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/openlink-structured-data-sniff/>
As for Virtuoso, it hasn't changed bar adding support for WebID-OIDC
which enables compatibility with Solid Pods for read-write operations
via WebDAV/LDP mounting functionality etc..
Long story short, we are still waiting for everyone to catch up :)
Kingsley
>
> On Sat, 15 May 2021, 5:07 am Kingsley Idehen, <kidehen@openlinksw.com
> <mailto:kidehen@openlinksw.com>> wrote:
>
> On 5/14/21 1:07 PM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>> Overall; the underlying intent; was to create complex AUTH /
>> Endification / Identification fabric capabilities; that could
>> in-turn, support complex (hyper-private) semantics, that could
>> only be brought about post-technological growth; with support of
>> political will... i"m not sure that' going to happen (in the
>> western world, first or at all); but, i wanted to make a note
>> that the examples provided by openlink software (virtuoso) or
>> Project Hydra (samvera nowadays?) didn't have enough
>> functionality back in 2011/2; as such, i sought to improve it, to
>> support - human beings, unto 'rule of law', for a moral economy,
>> etc...
>
>
> Hi Timothy,
>
> To be clear:
>
> OpenLink Virtuoso <https://virtuoso.openlinksw.com> is a platform
> that includes a multi-protocol authentication layer. One of the
> many supported protocols is WebID-TLS. We also support NetID-TLS
> which is basically WebID-TLS decoupled from http: scheme URIs
> e.g., it supports ldap: scheme URIs.
>
> Authorization wise, our technology is driven 100% by RDF
> sentences/statements (informed by terms from relevant ontologies).
>
> I don't see limitations in RDF that aren't surmounted by the use
> of SPARQL as a Rules Language (like Datalog back in the day) re
> authorization via access controls.
>
> With the clarifications above outlined, what limitation are you
> speaking about?
>
> --
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>
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