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"Team" members wanted

From: Sebastian Samaruga <ssamarug@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:57:18 -0300
Message-ID: <CAOLUXBsE01rK6v1FqkgONKdv0EX3wfb++ptHttk0f-jvwENFVA@mail.gmail.com>
To: cory-c@modeldriven.com, W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, DBpedia <Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>, pragmaticweb@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de
Hi. It's really encouraging to find people interested into achieving
similar goals. Mostly when the whole community seems to be looking at other
side and the support comes from an organization like the OMG.

I'll try to respond inline each part of your message:

On Oct 28, 2017 1:10 PM, "Cory Casanave" <cory-c@modeldriven.com> wrote:


We may have some goals in common. We are currently working on a reference
implementation for “Semantic Modeling for Information Federation” (SMIF),
an OMG standard in progress. Here is a link to the current draft:

I've tried to read the specification. It's really 'formal' in shape but a
little bit narrow less in scope. It defines lots of artifacts and their
roles in the way of 'usual' models of models approach of trying to solve
anything. My approach would be to have a metamodel that could render any
model (including the model itself)

The foundation meta-model is designed to support a variety of modeling,
data languages and technologies as well as mapping semantics. There is
already one commercial implementation of the UML/OWL binding (which makes
it much easier to create and reuse SW models): https://www.nomagic.com/

If a foundation meta-model is meant to be built for business integration,
both in the producers side of the coin as in the consumers side everything

should be homogeneus as for being able to regard resources comming or going
into an operation (or exchange as I'm building an ESB) as the same kind of
thing, regardless they are database records, XML files, CSV or whatever.

That's why I'll be using Functional Programming for this along with Java 8.
Operations include the representation side of the coin as verbs as in CRUD
resorts on the formats being exchanged.

We are building out the more runtime aspects of federation ( also in Java 😊).
The mapping semantics that define the “pivot” through concepts to various
data representations is a key feature, as are higher representation of
concepts like roles and first-class relationships. We are not quite ready
to post the initial implementation, the target is end-of-year. One area we
would like to collaborate on is the analytics side, currently the analytics
front-ends are all very SQL (or at least table or name/value) oriented.

The 'pivot' representation for various integrated sources should be the
ability to treat a DB, REST or whatever representation as the same without
resorting in layers of layers of mappings. Federation could be thought of
as if I update a (database) resource a (RESTful) resource is updated
(invoked) accordingly.

Analytics should come its way if 'federated' queries may be rant over
'homologated' meta-models of sources. Here I agree that there should be no
mappings to the underlying sources but leverage the homogeneity given from
FP. Given a functional ESB approach I'm pointing to, analytics would be
pipes of transforms in exchanges.

Like you, we are looking for collaborators on both the business and
technical sides. It may be that the projects could be mutually supportive.

Of course I'll be pleased in collaborating in this endeavor. What I'll warn
you is that my 'formalism' and, even, my skills levels may be very bellow
the ones beared by those actually participating.

And what I could offer for now are *very fuzzy* early drafts (even ones
without any layout at all) where I'm dumping thoughts regarding a future


Sebastián Samaruga.

Cory Casanave

*From:* Sebastian Samaruga [mailto:ssamarug@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2017 11:26 AM
*To:* W3C Semantic Web IG <semantic-web@w3.org>; public-rww <
public-rww@w3.org>; DBpedia <Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>;
*Subject:* "Team" members wanted

Team members wanted (for a project that doesn't yet exist):

Hi, I'm just creating 'CognescentBI' as an organization into GitHub for
initially hosting the proyect 'BISemantics' where I'll be pushing all the
development efforts regarding a Business Integration platform for the Web
of Data.


I'm looking for collaborators, members, contributors and comments of all
kind and sources.

Please watch for updates or follow:


>From Blogspot there will be accessible a forum group link and Twitter
updates from which to keep updated.

For being honest, I already have no code at all. The whole project is
planned to be implemented in Java and with a strong 'semantics'
orientation. For now all I have is a bunch of Word documents specifying
what's my 'vision' of a Semantic Web of Data.

So please be patient. I'm trying to take this very slowly doing as much
analysis and design as posible before actually implementing anything.

So, if you dare, try to skim through the document files in the repo and,
reading between lines, try to figure out what are the ingredients I'll try
to mix up.

I now it's cumbersome for someone to be asked to figure out what others
(example: me) are trying to mean when stating something. That's my main
problem when I think something I wrote is worthwhile to share with the
world and I think it will be evident for others to realize what's my point.

That's why I'm going 'social' into development. It's evident for me I'm
needing to be clear in the most possible ways and that comments from peers
are the only way to find out where I must turn out to achieve this.

Best Regards,

Received on Wednesday, 1 November 2017 09:21:56 UTC

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