- From: Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch>
- Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:56:58 +0100
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, <timbl+mariadimou@w3.org>
- CC: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <b45d631e-6c30-5a47-0ddc-ff71fab2dc51@cern.ch>
Dear all, you have sent me information and support for http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf> The CERN IT management position so far is that this proposal will be discussed at a later date due to other urgent priorities and lack of resources. As Tim knows, this is the Nth such proposal I write since 1994. Anyway, best wishes for you and your families and courage with the technology and political challenges around the Internet and the Web. Yours ever Maria Dimou / CERN On 06.12.2017 10:22, Maria Dimou wrote: > > Dear Melvin, > > thank you for this additional information. I have sent the proposal to > my management and heard nothing so far. Next week, I shall re-edit it, > to add the elements you provided and send them a reminder. I'll keep > you and Tim informed. > > Thanks again! > > Yours > > Maria > > > On 05.12.2017 17:42, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >> >> >> On 5 December 2017 at 17:38, Melvin Carvalho >> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Maria >> >> This is how we are using Web Access Control in Solid [1] >> >> https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec >> <https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec> >> >> Solid is actively developed, with regular (daily) meetings etc. >> >> >> This is also referenced here : >> >> https://fedora.info/2017/11/27/spec/#resource-authorization >> >> >> [1] https://github.com/solid/solid >> >> On 23 November 2017 at 13:37, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch >> <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>> wrote: >> >> Dear Melvin, dear Tim, >> >> thank you for your attention. Here is the proposal with the >> effort estimates: >> http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf >> <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf> >> >> I avoided concrete technical details and suggestions for WG >> formation, until I get a positive reply from the CERN >> management. As Tim knows, I've been submitting such proposals >> for a number of years but the dynamics here are complex... >> >> Thank you again! >> Maria >> >> On 23.11.2017 09:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 22 November 2017 at 16:31, Maria Dimou >>> <Maria.Dimou@cern.ch <mailto:Maria.Dimou@cern.ch>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Melvin, >>> >>> just a kind reminder for the estimation of effort >>> (meetings, paper reviews) that the WebAC work requires >>> from its participants. This is my proposal >>> http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf >>> <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf> >>> >>> >>> Hi Maria, that document looks great! :) >>> >>> I mentioned this to TimBL (cc'd), who remembers you at CERN :) >>> >>> The web access control work is actively used in software >>> development with various projects. >>> >>> The interaction is regularly, weekly or daily, but tends to >>> be in places such as chat rooms (e.g. gitter) and github >>> (issues), in addition to mailing lists and wikis. >>> >>> The wiki is largely complete and ready to implement, which >>> is what many of us are doing. >>> >>> In terms of a formal working group, Tim did say we could >>> possibly fire up a quick working group if needed, tho that >>> would require a number of independent implementations. >>> >>> I'd be happy to provide further data points in terms of >>> usage, if you can give me an idea of what you're looking for >>> and/or what would be helpful >>> >>> Hope that helps! :) >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> Maria >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Maria Dimou [maria.dimou@cern.ch >>> <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>] >>> *Sent:* 16 November 2017 17:15 >>> *To:* Melvin Carvalho >>> *Cc:* public-rww >>> *Subject:* Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG >>> >>> Thank you Melvin. This is very useful. Open data is >>> open:-D but we have other applications with access >>> control. Is the work finalised or does W3C propose >>> technical changes that become standards? In order to >>> have any chance for my proposal to be considered by the >>> CERN IT management, I need to know whether WebAC >>> involves people still meeting, writing, reviewing... to >>> understand how much time/effort is required from the >>> developers for this standardisation work (if this work >>> is still on-going). >>> >>> Thanks very much for your help! >>> >>> yours >>> >>> Maria >>> >>> On 16.11.2017 16:56, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 November 2017 at 15:51, Melvin Carvalho >>>> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 November 2017 at 13:36, Maria Dimou >>>> <maria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> I wrote a proposal to include CERN Open Data<http://opendata.cern.ch/> >>>> <http://opendata.cern.ch/> >>>> developers in the WebAC W3C WG and need to quantify this involvement. >>>> >>>> Can you please tell me what it means in terms of members' involvement >>>> (f2f or video conf. meetings, email activity, co-authoring, reviewing >>>> papers etc)? >>>> >>>> Thank you very much in advance >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Maria, thanks for the question. Perhaps this is >>>> posted to the wrong list? >>>> >>>> I dont know what the WebAC W3C WG is? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ah I see, you mean ? >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl >>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl> >>>> >>>> WG I understood as Working Group. We dont have a W3C >>>> Working Group (that im aware, there might be one tho!) >>>> >>>> If you mean editing the wiki, anyone is free to do so, >>>> so please go ahead! :) >>>> >>>> Any more insights on the cern open data set. Does it >>>> have access control? >>>> >>>> Maria Dimou / CERN >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Maria Dimoumaria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch> http://cern.ch/dimou >>>> CERN CH-1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland >>>> Tel:+41227673356 <tel:+41%2022%20767%2033%2056> Mob:+41754113248 <tel:+41%2075%20411%2032%2048> Fax:+41227669820 <tel:+41%2022%20766%2098%2020> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- Maria Dimou maria.dimou@cern.ch >> <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch> http://cern.ch/dimou >> >> CERN / IT CH-1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland >> Tel:+41227673356 <tel:+41%2022%20767%2033%2056> Mob:+41754113248 <tel:+41%2075%20411%2032%2048> Fax:+41227669820 <tel:+41%2022%20766%2098%2020> >> >> >> > > -- > Maria Dimoumaria.dimou@cern.ch http://cern.ch/dimou > CERN / IT CH-1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland > Tel:+41227673356 Mob:+41754113248 Fax:+41227669820 -- Maria Dimou maria.dimou@cern.ch http://cern.ch/dimou CERN / IT CH-1211 Geneva 23 Switzerland Tel:+41227673356 Mob:+41754113248 Fax:+41227669820
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