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Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG

From: Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:22:54 +0100
To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
CC: <timbl+mariadimou@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
Message-ID: <98fd0da1-d9c4-5e15-57ea-fe8603249dba@cern.ch>
Dear Melvin,

thank you for this additional information. I have sent the proposal to 
my management and heard nothing so far. Next week, I shall re-edit it, 
to add the elements you provided and send them a reminder. I'll keep you 
and Tim informed.

Thanks again!

Yours

Maria


On 05.12.2017 17:42, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
>
> On 5 December 2017 at 17:38, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com 
> <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Maria
>
>     This is how we are using Web Access Control in Solid [1]
>
>     https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec
>     <https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec>
>
>     Solid is actively developed, with regular (daily) meetings etc.
>
>
> This is also referenced here :
>
> https://fedora.info/2017/11/27/spec/#resource-authorization
>
>
>     [1] https://github.com/solid/solid
>
>     On 23 November 2017 at 13:37, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch
>     <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>> wrote:
>
>         Dear Melvin, dear Tim,
>
>         thank you for your attention. Here is the proposal with the
>         effort estimates:
>         http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf
>         <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf>
>
>         I avoided concrete technical details and suggestions for WG
>         formation, until I get a positive reply from the CERN
>         management. As Tim knows, I've been submitting such proposals
>         for a number of years but the dynamics here are complex...
>
>         Thank you again!
>         Maria
>
>         On 23.11.2017 09:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On 22 November 2017 at 16:31, Maria Dimou
>>         <Maria.Dimou@cern.ch <mailto:Maria.Dimou@cern.ch>> wrote:
>>
>>             Dear Melvin,
>>
>>             just a kind reminder for the estimation of effort
>>             (meetings, paper reviews) that the WebAC work requires
>>             from its participants. This is my proposal
>>             http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf
>>             <http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_proposal.pdf>
>>
>>
>>         Hi Maria, that document looks great! :)
>>
>>         I mentioned this to TimBL (cc'd), who remembers you at CERN :)
>>
>>         The web access control work is actively used in software
>>         development with various projects.
>>
>>         The interaction is regularly, weekly or daily, but tends to
>>         be in places such as chat rooms (e.g. gitter) and github
>>         (issues), in addition to mailing lists and wikis.
>>
>>         The wiki is largely complete and ready to implement, which is
>>         what many of us are doing.
>>
>>         In terms of a formal working group, Tim did say we could
>>         possibly fire up a quick working group if needed, tho that
>>         would require a number of independent implementations.
>>
>>         I'd be happy to provide further data points in terms of
>>         usage, if you can give me an idea of what you're looking for
>>         and/or what would be helpful
>>
>>         Hope that helps! :)
>>
>>
>>             Thank you
>>             Maria
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             *From:* Maria Dimou [maria.dimou@cern.ch
>>             <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>]
>>             *Sent:* 16 November 2017 17:15
>>             *To:* Melvin Carvalho
>>             *Cc:* public-rww
>>             *Subject:* Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG
>>
>>             Thank you Melvin. This is very useful. Open data is
>>             open:-D but we have other applications with access
>>             control. Is the work finalised or does W3C propose
>>             technical changes that become standards? In order to have
>>             any chance for my proposal to be considered by the CERN
>>             IT management, I need to know whether WebAC involves
>>             people still meeting, writing, reviewing... to understand
>>             how much time/effort is required from the developers for
>>             this standardisation work (if this work is still on-going).
>>
>>             Thanks very much for your help!
>>
>>             yours
>>
>>             Maria
>>
>>             On 16.11.2017 16:56, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 16 November 2017 at 15:51, Melvin Carvalho
>>>             <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
>>>             <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On 16 November 2017 at 13:36, Maria Dimou
>>>                 <maria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>>
>>>                 wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Hello!
>>>
>>>                     I wrote a proposal to include CERN Open Data<http://opendata.cern.ch/>
>>>                     <http://opendata.cern.ch/>  
>>>                     developers in the WebAC W3C WG and need to quantify this involvement.
>>>
>>>                     Can you please tell me what it means in terms of members' involvement
>>>                     (f2f or video conf. meetings, email activity, co-authoring, reviewing
>>>                     papers etc)?
>>>
>>>                     Thank you very much in advance
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Hi Maria, thanks for the question. Perhaps this is
>>>                 posted to the wrong list?
>>>
>>>                 I dont know what the WebAC W3C WG is?
>>>
>>>
>>>             Ah I see, you mean ?
>>>
>>>             https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
>>>             <https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl>
>>>
>>>             WG I understood as Working Group.  We dont have a W3C
>>>             Working Group (that im aware, there might be one tho!)
>>>
>>>             If you mean editing the wiki, anyone is free to do so,
>>>             so please go ahead! :)
>>>
>>>             Any more insights on the cern open data set. Does it
>>>             have access control?
>>>
>>>                     Maria Dimou / CERN
>>>
>>>                     -- 
>>>                     Maria Dimoumaria.dimou@cern.ch <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch>      http://cern.ch/dimou
>>>                     CERN                    CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
>>>                     Tel:+41227673356 <tel:+41%2022%20767%2033%2056>         Mob:+41754113248 <tel:+41%2075%20411%2032%2048>         Fax:+41227669820 <tel:+41%2022%20766%2098%2020>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>         -- Maria Dimou maria.dimou@cern.ch
>         <mailto:maria.dimou@cern.ch> http://cern.ch/dimou
>
>         CERN / IT              CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
>         Tel:+41227673356 <tel:+41%2022%20767%2033%2056>        Mob:+41754113248 <tel:+41%2075%20411%2032%2048>         Fax:+41227669820 <tel:+41%2022%20766%2098%2020>
>
>
>

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Maria Dimou            maria.dimou@cern.ch     http://cern.ch/dimou
CERN / IT              CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
Tel:+41227673356       Mob:+41754113248        Fax:+41227669820
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