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Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:42:07 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhKzpLc2kDdzJ3G9Xp2s91pOP6yagfdqGgZN-ZLzVHY9+A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch>
Cc: timbl+mariadimou@w3.org, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
On 5 December 2017 at 17:38, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Maria
>
> This is how we are using Web Access Control in Solid [1]
>
> https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec
>
> Solid is actively developed, with regular (daily) meetings etc.
>

This is also referenced here :

https://fedora.info/2017/11/27/spec/#resource-authorization


>
> [1] https://github.com/solid/solid
>
> On 23 November 2017 at 13:37, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch> wrote:
>
>> Dear Melvin, dear Tim,
>>
>> thank you for your attention. Here is the proposal with the effort
>> estimates: http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_pr
>> oposal.pdf
>> I avoided concrete technical details and suggestions for WG formation,
>> until I get a positive reply from the CERN management. As Tim knows, I've
>> been submitting such proposals
>> for a number of years but the dynamics here are complex...
>>
>> Thank you again!
>> Maria
>>
>> On 23.11.2017 09:25, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 November 2017 at 16:31, Maria Dimou <Maria.Dimou@cern.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Melvin,
>>>
>>> just a kind reminder for the estimation of effort (meetings, paper
>>> reviews) that the WebAC work requires from its participants. This is my
>>> proposal http://cern.ch/dimou/personal/CERN-W3C_Collaboration_2017_pr
>>> oposal.pdf
>>>
>>
>> Hi Maria, that document looks great! :)
>>
>> I mentioned this to TimBL (cc'd), who remembers you at CERN :)
>>
>> The web access control work is actively used in software development with
>> various projects.
>>
>> The interaction is regularly, weekly or daily, but tends to be in places
>> such as chat rooms (e.g. gitter) and github (issues), in addition to
>> mailing lists and wikis.
>>
>> The wiki is largely complete and ready to implement, which is what many
>> of us are doing.
>>
>> In terms of a formal working group, Tim did say we could possibly fire up
>> a quick working group if needed, tho that would require a number of
>> independent implementations.
>>
>> I'd be happy to provide further data points in terms of usage, if you can
>> give me an idea of what you're looking for and/or what would be helpful
>>
>> Hope that helps! :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Maria
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Maria Dimou [maria.dimou@cern.ch]
>>> *Sent:* 16 November 2017 17:15
>>> *To:* Melvin Carvalho
>>> *Cc:* public-rww
>>> *Subject:* Re: CERN involvement in the W3C WebAC WG
>>>
>>> Thank you Melvin. This is very useful. Open data is open:-D but we have
>>> other applications with access control. Is the work finalised or does W3C
>>> propose technical changes that become standards? In order to have any
>>> chance for my proposal to be considered by the CERN IT management, I need
>>> to know whether WebAC involves people still meeting, writing, reviewing...
>>> to understand how much time/effort is required from the developers for this
>>> standardisation work (if this work is still on-going).
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your help!
>>>
>>> yours
>>>
>>> Maria
>>> On 16.11.2017 16:56, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 November 2017 at 15:51, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 November 2017 at 13:36, Maria Dimou <maria.dimou@cern.ch> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote a proposal to include CERN Open Data <http://opendata.cern.ch/> <http://opendata.cern.ch/>
>>>>> developers in the WebAC W3C WG and need to quantify this involvement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please tell me what it means in terms of members' involvement
>>>>> (f2f or video conf. meetings, email activity, co-authoring, reviewing
>>>>> papers etc)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much in advance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Maria, thanks for the question.  Perhaps this is posted to the wrong
>>>> list?
>>>>
>>>> I dont know what the WebAC W3C WG is?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah I see, you mean ?
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
>>>
>>> WG I understood as Working Group.  We dont have a W3C Working Group
>>> (that im aware, there might be one tho!)
>>>
>>> If you mean editing the wiki, anyone is free to do so, so please go
>>> ahead! :)
>>>
>>> Any more insights on the cern open data set.  Does it have access
>>> control?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Maria Dimou / CERN
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Maria Dimou             maria.dimou@cern.ch     http://cern.ch/dimou
>>>>> CERN                    CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
>>>>> Tel:+41227673356 <+41%2022%20767%2033%2056>        Mob:+41754113248 <+41%2075%20411%2032%2048>        Fax:+41227669820 <+41%2022%20766%2098%2020>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Maria Dimou            maria.dimou@cern.ch     http://cern.ch/dimou
>>
>> CERN / IT              CH-1211 Geneva 23       Switzerland
>> Tel:+41227673356 <+41%2022%20767%2033%2056>       Mob:+41754113248 <+41%2075%20411%2032%2048>        Fax:+41227669820 <+41%2022%20766%2098%2020>
>>
>>
>
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