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Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Semantic Web Deployment

From: Paul Houle <paul.houle@ontology2.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:33:46 +0000
To: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com>, "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>, DBpedia <Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>
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One reason why you hear so little about the semantic web is that in many 
ways it has won.  That is,  major progress has been made in all of the 
directions that the semantic web set out to do.  Almost all of them 
relate to RDF graphs or property graphs in a fairly direct way,  even 
though the people who built and use the system might not know or care.

Look at this schema for web services:

https://github.com/raml-org/raml-spec/blob/master/versions/raml-10/raml-10.md/

It is all about giving meaning to IRIs;  it is different from the 
"dereferencing idea" but it is clearly in the same space.  The type 
system contains xsd and you could easily convert a RAML document to RDF 
with a mechanical translation and from there implement the inference 
that RAML uses to reduce boilerplate.

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If your aim is to storm the ramparts,  overturn the current titans of 
the tech industry and get us out of the funk,  I say:

* you cannot beat Facebook and Google at their game,
* but people are realizing those things don't serve them well

fundamentally giving up on the advertising model and focusing on power 
tools used by 'media consumers' that filter,  transform, remix, etc. 
large amounts of content represented in the various ways it is commonly 
represented.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Sebastian Samaruga" <ssamarug@gmail.com>
To: "W3C Semantic Web IG" <semantic-web@w3.org>; "public-rww" 
<public-rww@w3.org>; "DBpedia" 
<Dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: 12/3/2017 12:38:23 AM
Subject: [DBpedia-discussion] Semantic Web Deployment

>Hi. Compared to the rest of the members of this lists I think I'm just 
>a Semantic Web 'hobbyist' in the sense I'm not that academically 
>involved with all of the standards.
>
>But I was wondering what was the means by current Document Web (2.0) 
>became so successfully deployed in today's everybody's lifes and what 
>could be the means by which the same success could be achieved by the 
>Data (Semantic) Web.
>
>Traditional web success could be the result of the ease of deployment 
>of servers, browsers and a standarized protocol for distributed peers 
>(hosts) which enabled browsers render served (hyperlinked) documents.
>
>But what would be the means (servers, protocol, browsers) which will 
>enable Semantic (Data) Web widespread adoption? I see (and focus) on 
>considering the Data Web more oriented towards what could be the 
>'backend' side of the coin, augmenting, perhaps, traditional Document 
>Web (or whatever) applications. I don't see myself writing 'pages' or 
>UI in RDF, something current web does very well.
>
>Anyone could comment or offer guidance on this (where in the 
>application stack should be SW stuff placed) please give me some 
>orientation. Meanwhile I share my thoughts regarding this in another 
>draft where I put what I'm trying to understand along the way:
>
>https://github.com/CognescentBI/BISemantics/blob/master/Document.pdf?raw=true
>
>Best,
>Sebastián.
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