Re: Solid Help

Since solid resides in both application and data realms, a path forward
would be to start on a basic application error vocabulary. We couldn't
write apps and api integrations without informative errors and debug logs,
that would imply the same is needed for web of data apps.

On 6 Sep 2016 13:32, "Melvin Carvalho" <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 6 September 2016 at 14:17, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 9/6/16 4:08 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
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>> Is this problem impacting virtuoso functionality also?
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>>
>> None of this has anything to do with Virtuoso. All of these issues relate
>> to:
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>> [1] WebID-Profile Documents
>> [2] WebID+TLS Authentication Protocol
>> [3] Proper understanding of the above.
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>> Thus far, the only quirk I've found is that some of my WebID-Profile
>> documents contain Turtle content that's a little laxed on prefix handling.
>> By that I mean: if prefixes aren't declared and Virtuoso is the target
>> platform, we use local prefix caches to resolve namespaces to URIs. Net
>> effect, other platforms that don't go this far will result in WebID-Profile
>> document processing errors.
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>> The biggest problem with some of the SoLiD apps is that they simply don't
>> provide any diagnostic information when this errors occurs. Thus, you have
>> the root of the "Virtuoso isn't SoLiD" compliant meme :(
>>
>> I've found this out under 5 minutes during a session with Sarven
>> Capadisli when testing http://dokie.li with one of my WebIDs. Anyway,
>> more to come on all of this as a lot has been discovered and I prefer to
>> explain it all in plain English.
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> Sorry if ive implied virtuoso isnt solid compliant.  What I think would be
> a better narrative is that it would be really awesome to see solid apps
> running on virtuoso and vice versa.  The advantage of this is to grow the
> network effect.  By using demos both platforms become more attractive.
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> You make a good point in part, in that many apps dont have an exhaustive
> error suite, but most have at least some error checking, and there is more
> in the console.  Distributed debugging is a hard problem, and takes a long
> time, also app developers are always finding a line between functionality
> and robustness.
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> You correctly point out that this issue is simply related to Webid
> profiles and TLS authentication.  It's great that safari has such a neat
> integration with the keychain.  I think blog posts like Brent's help.
> Better documentation, better error checking and guiding the user, all
> positives.
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>> Kingsley
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>> Tim.H.
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>> On Tue., 6 Sep. 2016, 5:29 pm Neil Macehiter, <neil.macehiter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Thanks both. I have been able to gain access to my databox. I signed up
>>> using Safari rather than Chrome and it created the certificate in my
>>> keychain. When I accessed username.databox.me I was prompted for the
>>> newly created certificate and was able to login. So, it doesn't look like
>>> Chrome allows the creation of the certificate. What should I do about the
>>> two other accounts I created: can they be deleted?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 at 23:48 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> that should be noted somewhere in the documentation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 07:24 Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On 4 September 2016 at 11:02, Neil Macehiter <neil.macehiter@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to sign-up for Solid. I have created 2 IDs: neilmacehiter
>>>>>> and nmacehiter but in both cases it does not install a new certificate in
>>>>>> Chrome. I am only given the option of selecting existing certificates. Are
>>>>>> you able to delete the WebIDs and explain how I can ensure it creates a
>>>>>> certificate for authentication.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Neil & welcome!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for trying solid.
>>>>>
>>>>> The system was working quite well until recently, when there was an
>>>>> unexpected change in the browser, making life a bit more difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to get your certificate, you need to click the small green
>>>>> and turn on 'key generation' in the site settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> --
>> Regards,
>>
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