Re: Solid Help

On 6 September 2016 at 14:17, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
wrote:

> On 9/6/16 4:08 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>
> Is this problem impacting virtuoso functionality also?
>
>
> None of this has anything to do with Virtuoso. All of these issues relate
> to:
>
> [1] WebID-Profile Documents
> [2] WebID+TLS Authentication Protocol
> [3] Proper understanding of the above.
>
> Thus far, the only quirk I've found is that some of my WebID-Profile
> documents contain Turtle content that's a little laxed on prefix handling.
> By that I mean: if prefixes aren't declared and Virtuoso is the target
> platform, we use local prefix caches to resolve namespaces to URIs. Net
> effect, other platforms that don't go this far will result in WebID-Profile
> document processing errors.
>
> The biggest problem with some of the SoLiD apps is that they simply don't
> provide any diagnostic information when this errors occurs. Thus, you have
> the root of the "Virtuoso isn't SoLiD" compliant meme :(
>
> I've found this out under 5 minutes during a session with Sarven Capadisli
> when testing http://dokie.li with one of my WebIDs. Anyway, more to come
> on all of this as a lot has been discovered and I prefer to explain it all
> in plain English.
>

Sorry if ive implied virtuoso isnt solid compliant.  What I think would be
a better narrative is that it would be really awesome to see solid apps
running on virtuoso and vice versa.  The advantage of this is to grow the
network effect.  By using demos both platforms become more attractive.

You make a good point in part, in that many apps dont have an exhaustive
error suite, but most have at least some error checking, and there is more
in the console.  Distributed debugging is a hard problem, and takes a long
time, also app developers are always finding a line between functionality
and robustness.

You correctly point out that this issue is simply related to Webid profiles
and TLS authentication.  It's great that safari has such a neat integration
with the keychain.  I think blog posts like Brent's help.  Better
documentation, better error checking and guiding the user, all positives.


>
> Kingsley
>
>
> Tim.H.
>
> On Tue., 6 Sep. 2016, 5:29 pm Neil Macehiter, <neil.macehiter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks both. I have been able to gain access to my databox. I signed up
>> using Safari rather than Chrome and it created the certificate in my
>> keychain. When I accessed username.databox.me I was prompted for the
>> newly created certificate and was able to login. So, it doesn't look like
>> Chrome allows the creation of the certificate. What should I do about the
>> two other accounts I created: can they be deleted?
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 at 23:48 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that should be noted somewhere in the documentation.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 at 07:24 Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4 September 2016 at 11:02, Neil Macehiter <neil.macehiter@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to sign-up for Solid. I have created 2 IDs: neilmacehiter
>>>>> and nmacehiter but in both cases it does not install a new certificate in
>>>>> Chrome. I am only given the option of selecting existing certificates. Are
>>>>> you able to delete the WebIDs and explain how I can ensure it creates a
>>>>> certificate for authentication.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Neil & welcome!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for trying solid.
>>>>
>>>> The system was working quite well until recently, when there was an
>>>> unexpected change in the browser, making life a bit more difficult.
>>>>
>>>> In order to get your certificate, you need to click the small green and
>>>> turn on 'key generation' in the site settings.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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