- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:57:14 +0100
- To: j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at
- Cc: public-rww@w3.org
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On 8 Dec 2012, at 14:44, Jürgen Jakobitsch <j.jakobitsch@semantic-web.at> wrote: > welcome to absurdistan. > > honestly, to me this has nothing to do with collaboration/consensus > building anymore, it's bending and bowing until there's a webID > definition that makes sure the community group is promoted a working > group. Why do you say that? At TPAC there were many people who voted for a hash in WebID http://www.w3.org/2012/10/30-webid-minutes.html#item01 Here is the list of people who voted: PROPOSAL: "A WebID is a hash HTTP URI which denotes an Agent. You can GET an RDF model as TURTLE." <deiu> +1 <bblfish> +1 <jonathandray> +1 <rblin> +1 <gregory> +1 <sangrae> +1 <ttanaka2> +1 <jin> +1 <trueg_> +1 <melvster> 0 <gaiaphj> +1 <shh> +1 <chsiao> +1 <webr3> +1 <philipp> +1 <timbl> +1 <develD> +1 Them we got what seemed to be agreement on a hash as a SHOULD in teleconferences, as TimBL came along. Some wanted a MUST, some a SHOULD, some nothing. So then as the debate got infintely long, we put up a wiki so that people help explain the argument to people who don't have the time to read 1 month of e-mail. But that itself became just as complicted to read as the threads of discussion. I know you are not happy Jürgen because you want any URI to be able to be a WebID. I am sorry that we could not satisfy you there. But I did put up an identity Interoperability space to show how all the other identifiers could be tied together. http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/Identity_Interoperability So this should not be a problem. This is a naming issue, and yes, getting into the W3C WG would help a lot. > > btw.: i already left webID community group a week ago. > > wkr turnguard > > On Sat, 2012-12-08 at 12:49 +0100, Henry Story wrote: >> The old hash wiki page was too complex for a vote, with too much tit >> for tat, >> and a lot of repetition. >> >> >> So instead I put up a new hash wiki page >> >> >> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/wiki/WebID_Definition/hash2 >> >> >> which contains only the arguments in favour of a position, and only >> the ones people >> have argued for strongest here. This is I know a subjective take on >> this, but this is what >> I had in mind as something to link to from the spec perhaps, or to use >> for the voting. >> >> >> Is this reasonable? Perhaps with a few more changes? >> >> >> Henry >> >> On 7 Dec 2012, at 22:35, Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Nathan <nathan@webr3.org> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I'd like to propose that we pick the socially awkward issues >>> of WebID and set a time limit on them. A time limit of the >>> end of the year. >>> >>> A 2 hour meeting / skype / google hangout should be easily >>> enough to resolve things and get consensus. >>> >>> We need to go in to 2013 with all of this behind us, and a >>> clean productive slate ahead of us to really polish, >>> implement, utilize and promote both WebID and WebID >>> Protocol. >>> >>> >>> On top of that, at the end of this time limit, I'd like to suggest a >>> WBS poll open for a week or so. Here is why: the problem we've had >>> with the Friday telecons is that only a subset of the group is able >>> to make it and that's the only place we've taken any kind of vote. >>> >>> >>> Having a more flexible channel to accept votes would give a chance >>> to the less vocal people to also take part in the decision of the >>> group. I'm thinking about Alex, timbl, trueg, Nathan, Olivier >>> Berger, Jonathan Dray, Sergio Fernandez, many more. I'm not sure if >>> this group can make use of the W3 WBS system, but that's something >>> Henry can enquire about with Coralie maybe. >>> >>> >>> Steph. >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> >> > > -- > | Jürgen Jakobitsch, > | Software Developer > | Semantic Web Company GmbH > | Mariahilfer Straße 70 / Neubaugasse 1, Top 8 > | A - 1070 Wien, Austria > | Mob +43 676 62 12 710 | Fax +43.1.402 12 35 - 22 > > COMPANY INFORMATION > | web : http://www.semantic-web.at/ > | foaf : http://company.semantic-web.at/person/juergen_jakobitsch > PERSONAL INFORMATION > | web : http://www.turnguard.com > | foaf : http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard > | g+ : https://plus.google.com/111233759991616358206/posts > | skype : jakobitsch-punkt > | xmlns:tg = "http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard#" Social Web Architect http://bblfish.net/
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