- From: Michael Kifer <kifer@cs.sunysb.edu>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:22:03 -0500
- To: Dave Reynolds <der@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Cc: RIF WG <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
> Michael Kifer wrote: > > > 5. For predicates, we have two options. > > a. The simplest option is to say that a predicate, p(a,b,c,...), is false if > > any of its arguments evaluates to _|_ in the interpretation. > > > > b. This option introduces a new truth value, called E (error) such that > > ~E = E, E/\F=F, E/\T=E, E\/F=E, E\/T=T. Then we can say that > > p(a,b,c,...) has truth value E if at least of of the args is _|_. > > > > The advantage of option (b) over option (a) is that we have an explicit > > representation for errors. > > The disadvantage is that it is much more complicated. Many results need > > to be ported to account for this new truth value, and I did not check > > this carefully. Quite possible that this idea breaks somewhere. > > > > I think option (b) is too much work for very little gain. > > > > > > Comments? (esp. if anyone can see whether option (a) breaks somewhere) > > As Axel has already pointed out (b) seems to be the same as the SPARQL > approach. So adopting this would simplify the life of implementers who > want to support both (like us) and hence is preferable. As I pointed out in response to Axel, SPARQL has no model theory, and in any case, it is a very limited language. For us to go for (a) means that we have to check a lot of things and verify that the major results for a number of dialects (WFS, SMS, etc.) still hold. Does anybody have time/is able to do this carefully? On the other hand, (b) makes the treatment compatible with SWRL, which also does not have weird stuff like E. > How would (a) behave in a future dialect extension with negation? > Using (b) then it is clear that both p(a,...) and not p(a, ...) yield E > if any of the argument evaluates to _|_. If p(_|_) is false then, of course, not p(_|_) is true. --michael > Dave > -- > Hewlett-Packard Limited > Registered Office: Cain Road, Bracknell, Berks RG12 1HN > Registered No: 690597 England >
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