- From: Hirtle, David <David.Hirtle@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
- Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:55:01 -0400
- To: "Ginsberg, Allen" <AGINSBERG@imc.mitre.org>, "Christopher Welty" <welty@us.ibm.com>
- Cc: <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
Hi Allen and Chris, > I seem to recall someone suggesting that as a requirement, > and also that at least one of the original use-cases (a > REWERSE one I think) had rules that worked on XML data. I dug up the REWERSE use case you're probably thinking of: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/Rule-Based_Combined_Access_to_XML_a nd_RDF_Data It involves queries that essentially treat XML documents as facts. > So unless I am missing something (which might very well be > the case) I would say that the features of this use-case are > already covered. Well, perhaps not totally covered. Section 1.1 of the draft (Negotiating eBusiness Contracts Across Rule Platforms) involves XML data but doesn't go into much detail. I think the group should consider actually showing some XML along with a matching query (possibly alluding to XSL), especially since -- as Francois and Paul pointed out -- this is so important for RIF. On the other hand, perhaps this warrants its own use case. We can discuss more tomorrow. David > -----Original Message----- > From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-rif-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ginsberg, Allen > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:29 PM > To: Christopher Welty; public-rif-wg@w3.org > Subject: RE: [UCR] Public Comment clarification of term use > > > Hi Chris, > > This is a nice application. > > If I understand it correctly it seems to me that it would > require the RIF to handle rules that can match XML data > (i.e., XSL transformations). > > I seem to recall someone suggesting that as a requirement, > and also that at least one of the original use-cases (a > REWERSE one I think) had rules that worked on XML data. > > So unless I am missing something (which might very well be > the case) I would say that the features of this use-case are > already covered. > > That being said, I, for one, would have no problem with it's > being added (using the original template) to a list of > use-cases for the RIF on an appropriate WIKI page. > > Allen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-rif-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Welty > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:53 AM > To: public-rif-wg@w3.org > Subject: [UCR] Public Comment clarification of term use > > > Allen & David, > > This was posted on the public comments site. Seems like an > interesting > > use case, very webby, and could be viewed as driving an > interchange with XSL or something. Comments? > > -Chris > > > From: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> > Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:13:31 -0500 > Message-Id: <p06110404c04734aafc61@[10.0.1.2]> > To: public-rif-comments@w3.org > > Comment on > > RIF Use Cases and Requirement > http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/ucr/draft-20060323 > > In the WAI we have long struggled with how web media could > better serve > > those > with disbilities that interfere with reading. > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/usage/languageUsageAndAccess.html > > At the moment I am focused on a narrower objective -- > isolating best practice techniques for meeting Success > Criterion 3.1.3 of WCAG 2.0 (Work in Progress) > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-200603 17/Overvi > ew.html#meaning-idioms > > > One general plan for how to clarify these things is to have > some sort of a gloss or 'interpretation sheet' with > interpretation rules. I say 'rules' because one doesn't want > to mark all occurrences of a clarified term, but would prefer > to isolate them with some sort of a selector expression. > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2004Aug/0007.html > > A rough hack at a rule format for this would be an XSL > fragment that matches some pattern of markup such as > > <span class="term oed:refuse_1">refuse</span> > > and has a right-hand side that injects some RDF/A with SKOS > terms to the effect that when the oed:refuse_1 token is > present in the bag of class tokens, one should interpret the > term as defined in > > http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/refuse_1 > > This has the right sort of functionality, but it lacks your > expertise in the range of rule languages and the best way to > fit into a community of interoperable rule utterances. > > Would the RIF WG consider that this is a use case which is > under-served at present and should be included in the RIF Use > Case collection? > > Or if you believe that there is stable prior art that works > the problem well, what would you suggest that is? > > Al > > Dr. Christopher A. Welty, Knowledge Structures Group IBM > Watson Research Center, 19 Skyline Dr., Hawthorne, NY 10532 > Voice: +1 914.784.7055, IBM T/L: 863.7055, Fax: +1 914.784.7455 > Email: welty@watson.ibm.com > Web: http://www.research.ibm.com/people/w/welty/ > > >
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