- From: Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 14:35:46 -0400
- To: public-review-comments@w3.org
From https://www.w3.org/wbs/33280/Vision2025/results/ <Member> wrote: [[ We firmly believe in the Open Web designed for “all”. Open neutral technical standards to navigate, interact, and transact with many diverse web properties’ content and services is essential for society. As web properties will have varying economic means we must have a vision that supports unified standards that support interoperability across organizations in contrast to proprietary or restrictive protocols which might limit the innovation and competition required for a modern Open Web to flourish. We also strongly support the goals of this document, emphasizing why the open standards of the web matter, communicating why the principles of openness and decentralization matter to fostering online diversity, and ensuring that the document is useful but “timeless enough” to focus on needs of the stakeholders that generate and support the web, without “needing frequent revision.” The document properly notes that the core functionality of the open standards of the web have been conceived to share information, which has enabled sharing communication, sharing entertainment, sharing opinions and knowledge, and sharing commerce. However, despite the agreement on vision, goals and principles, we regretfully must submit a formal objection based the statement “technology is not neutral”. 1. This is an unsubstantiated and debated claim. 2. What are the politics of a brick? Is it a building material or a weapon? We maintain that the brick is merely a combination of elements, but whether we perceive it as a building material or a weapon depends on how it is used. 3. Therein lies the rub. The brick and any technology are neutral. How people, with free will, choose to use technology, can be for good or ill. However, restricting technology only to “good people” seems like a challenge beyond the remit, skill and perhaps even practicality of the W3C’s members and its mission as a neutral technical standards body. 4. We must recognize that any technology, from building materials, to transportation, to communication, can be used by good people and bad people. Instead of focusing on building bricks or other components that will only be used in good ways, we suggest we make it easier to facilitate communication between online players as to who they are (when they choose to associate their identity with their communication) and how they perceive the information they are communicating (e.g., labelling sensitive categories of information). 5. This raises the challenge of when an individual or an organization does not want to disclose who they are or the possibility that a bad actor (even a bad state actor) might violate this preference. We submit such a challenge is not possible to address to the technology layer and in any case by a neutral technical standards body such as the W3C. 6. All proposals to date require placing trust in some organization (first data hop), and then hoping that such an organization will not violate this trust. However, just as it is impossible to detect and distinguish good from bad people in advance of their actions, it is impossible to know that such an organization will abide by its promise, internal policies and external contracts to eliminate all risk. 7. Given the principle we want to design standards that “avoid centralization” and support “interoperability,” we should focus on communicating trust factors, rather than designing systems that require centralizing trust in single organizations. Accordingly, all such complexity involved in such centralization proposals could be better addressed by highlighting the reasons why any entity (consumer or business) ought to trust any organization and how such trust could be validated by an independent third party. The sanctions against any violations of trust ought to rely on the legal systems of each nation, as the W3C is not staffed, structured nor desirous of becoming a world-wide legislature and court. The technology layer alone cannot address government failures where they exist, and it is not the scope of the W3C as a neutral technical standards body to interfere in such matters. 8. The good news is that data protection laws do not require we eliminate all risk and reduce it to zero. Instead, Europe, the UK and US data protection laws all consistently rely on a “reasonableness” evaluation under the circumstances which is context specific to each organization. Given the W3C is not structured to and does not want to be a police state, we submit we acknowledge the limits of technology and clearly distinguish its neutrality from its use. We should have a vision and principles that make it easier for recipients to understand the metadata applied to information shared (by the sender or by others who wish to enrich it) and even the identity of who is sharing it (when either consumers or organizations volunteer this). Instead of engaging on the bad uses, we suggest taking the higher principle road that neutral technology cannot judge whether a future use will be good or bad, or be used only by “good” people. ]]
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