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Re: Meet-up with browser representatives and the W3C

From: Shane Hudson <Shane@ShaneHudson.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:23:37 +0100
Message-ID: <CANYFvNOTqiVRmiA7q8Or8khp2DdPF_p_++RYVHUVuPzt0-uM2A@mail.gmail.com>
To: John Albin Wilkins <john@albin.net>
Cc: "public-respimg@w3.org" <public-respimg@w3.org>

Just quickly picking up on the point you made of tools generating proper
markup... while this is true, CMSes are often used to stop people worrying
about markup, it should not be something considered when it comes to
developing the standards. If we (as web developers) do not understand the
syntax, it should not be used. HTML is meant to be easy for beginners, so
to hear presumably experienced developers mention relying on tools.. makes
me shiver a bit!

So yeah, tools are good but we should definitely be able to write it
ourselves. I sometimes use CSS gradient generators, but only to speed up my

Sorry to be on the aggressive there but hopefully you understand where I'm
coming from.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:36 PM, John Albin Wilkins <john@albin.net> wrote:

> I was thinking about attending, but now that I see Attiks (Peter) is going
> to be there, I feel confident that the Drupal/CMS sphere will be properly
> represented. :-)
> One of the common complaints about some of these syntaxes is that they are
> "too difficult to write". Having a tool that automatically generates the
> proper markup (like a CMS) makes that problem moot.
> The direction Drupal picture integration is headed is to an
> auto-configuration option. If the system knows the meta data about a
> responsive layout, a site builder could place a picture into a specific
> region of the layout and the system could auto-configure and generate the
> full HTML of any markup needed.
>  - John
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, July 29, 2013 at 5:28 PM, John Allan wrote:
>> > Will it be possible to participate online? I'm interested but cannot
>> come to Paris.
>> We are looking into ways to make that happen. Will let you know soon!
>> --
>> Marcos Caceres



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