- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:25 +0200
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Cc: public-rdf-wg <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <DA8B4D12-1421-4CF3-9408-B8AF76EAC407@w3.org>
Sandro,
I need clarifications on 'R'.
I presume 'R' is a time interval. Does it mean that for any dataset to be valid, a time interval should be defined for it? I guess we can say that if there is no such 'R' as part of a dataset definition, it is considered to be... undefined? 'All Time'?
How does this affect deployed datasets that may have G-s that vary in time already, but where there is no such time definition? Should we require SPARQL 1.1 to have a function that returns 'R' for a given dataset?
I wonder whether we can shy away from mentioning time altogether and accept that fact that <N,G> refers to a name for a G-box, ie, to something that can change over time, and our spec remain silent on this...
Ivan
On Oct 10, 2011, at 13:30 , Sandro Hawke wrote:
> Here's some revised wording for the proposal, getting a bit closer to
> spec text. It's still somewhat informal, and mixing normative and
> non-normative bits, and best-practice. And it's not as clear as it
> should be about handling change over time.
>
> -- Sandro
> ===
> A dataset D is true iff (1) its default graph is true and (2) for
> every pair of <N,G> in D, N names something (a "resource", sometimes
> called a "g-box") which, at every time T in R, has G as its current
> state.
>
> It follows from AWWW that if N is an IRI which can be dereferenced,
> a successful, correct dereference of N at any time T in R must yield
> a serialization ("representation") of G.
>
> In order to know whether a dereference occurs at a time in R, it is
> useful to have R declared in the default graph of D, or in another
> nearby, easy-to-find data source. Where possible, is is helpful to
> have R be All Time; that is, having N name a resource whose state,
> by definition, never changes.
>
> In RDF data, N may be used (1) directly, to name the g-box,
> expressing things like the license that applies to its state, or who
> controls it; and (2) indirectly, to refer to G as the current state
> of the g-box. Indirect reference can be used to express things
> about an RDF Graph (a "g-snap"), like that it was the graph some
> entity asserted at some time. Indirection is done in the semantics
> of the predicates with which N is used.
>
> When N is used indirectly, the reference to G only holds inside time
> range R, of course. Care must be taken not to use N as if it
> necessarily referred to G, outside of R. Since R is defined to be
> the same for all elements of D, indirect reference is safe in the
> default graph.
>
>
>
>
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