- From: Alex Hall <alexhall@revelytix.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:48:45 -0400
- To: Peter Frederick Patel-Schneider <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: danbri@danbri.org, public-rdf-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Z_MGyURd5e7TocMUoK8sAmyLE=0N15amX4azp@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Peter Frederick Patel-Schneider < pfps@research.bell-labs.com> wrote: > From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> > Subject: Re: What *is* RDF? > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 03:41:16 -0500 > > > Hi Peter, > > > > On 25 March 2011 17:49, Peter Frederick Patel-Schneider > > <pfps@research.bell-labs.com> wrote: > > > >> Well, I just whipped up the following, which I think is a first cut at > >> what I might give to a knowledgable CS person (whether this group covers > >> enough web developers is a different question, of course). Of course, > >> it is a lot longer that Richard's charaterisation of JSON, but this is > >> only to be expected. > >> > >> peter > >> > >> What is RDF(S)? > >> > >> RDF(S) (Resource Desription Framework (Schema)) is a logic [but don't be > >> scared by this] (and data model) for representing information on the > >> Web. > >> > >> RDF(S) uses RDF graphs to represent information. An RDF graph is a set > >> of facts or RDF triples, each of which has a subject, a predicate, and > >> an object. > > > > [...] [snip] > > > > Thanks, this is quite a refreshing read :) It's not quite "stick it on > > a t-shirt" material but is in a way a manifesto for RDF's underlying > > simplicity. > > > > I'd suggest one tweak, "An RDF graph is a set of *facts*" seems rather > > idealistic (in the nicest way). It suggests each triple can be > > (usefully) interpreted as a true statement about the world. Lots of > > RDF data is just plain wrong, out of date, malicious > > (over-enthusiastic SEO) or by some design capturing non-current > > worldview - logs, archives, etc. The original RDF specs talked about > > statements. I've tended to use 'claims' more recently but maybe that > > brings the notion of "who is the claimer here?" prematurely into the > > foreground. RDF documents that contain falsehoods are presumably > > somehow "still RDF", and can be managed using the same tool chain - > > eg. consulted in SPARQL databases. > > > > "... uses RDF graps to represent factual information" is a tiny bit > > softer; I think people would intuitively accept the notion that not > > every fragment of "factual information" must always be correct. And > > then maybe, "... is a set of statements or RDF triples, each of > > which...". > > > > cheers, > > > > Dan > > My experience in the US is that there are a lot of false facts readily > available for public consumption and there is no general distinction > made between true facts and false facts. However, "fact"->"statement" > seems like a good change. > > I don't know if I would use "factual information", maybe that is the > role of RDF graps. > > peter > I like the term "assertion" in this context -- a bit stronger than "statement" but not quite as strong as "fact". -Alex
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