Re: +blank node identifiers was- Re: [Graphs] Fwd: Comments on "SPARQL 1.1 Uniform HTTP Protocol for Managing RDF Graphs"

On Mar 18, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Nathan wrote:

> Nathan wrote:
>> Sandro Hawke wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 19:22 +0000, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>> Is g-snap->g-text is just a function of the content type?
>>> 
>>> Well, probably, for our purposes, I think so. There's a trivial case where it's not: the  arbitrary non-semantic
>>> variability in serialization, eg whitespace.  So, some notion of
>>> equivalence class of g-texts may be important.
>>> 
>>> There's a related problem I don't know if we can or should address,
>>> which is how to deal with websites which use cookies or other
>>> information (IP address, browser sniffing, etc) to customize content.
>> I was going to raise that, it's where the "resource state" http/rest story and the rdf "snapshot" story both breaks down.
>> Perhaps we should just scrap that story early on and have Named-G-Box = ( <u>, GB ) where GB = { gt1, gt2, gt3, ... }
>> Where gt* are g-texts, and GB is a g-box. A g-box being a set of g-texts over time. And of course a named-g-box is just a GB associated with a URI.
>> If we need g-snap, which I'm sure we do, then perhaps each g-text encodes/serializes a g-snap, and several g-texts may all encode/serialize equivalent g-snaps, but that requires g-snap equality to be determined.
>> O, actually I quite like that, then all g-snap's are anonymous abstract sets of rdf triples, and it's the set of g-texts (g-box) that is associated with a name.
> 
> Ahh, then blank node identifiers would be a property of the g-text, and the g-texts can be associated with a named-g-box, which would surely set blank node identifier scoping to the named-g-box level?
> 

YES. That is what my ISWC talk was about. Blank nodes need to be unique to a document/instance, which is another way to say that bnode identifiers are scoped there. 

Pat

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