- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:46:33 +0100
- To: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
- Cc: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>, RDF Working Group WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <6942A3FD-F805-475D-9B3A-3712C9BF1A51@w3.org>
On Mar 6, 2011, at 09:12 , Steve Harris wrote: [snip] > >> (FWIW, offhand, I think this is a better solution than the one in my >> email of 2 minutes ago.) >> >> (I don't think rdf:PlainLiteral is a problem. It was designed not to >> be, and I haven't heard any reports of it turning out to be. It's just a >> way to express plain literals in systems like RIF and OWL 2 that don't >> have native plain literals. It doesn't manifest in systems like RDF and >> SPARQL that do have native plain literals.) > > I'm not really clear on what rdf:PLainLiteral does, or is for, so I don't really have an opinion. > My own elevator pitch: if I want do to any time of datatype reasoning (in RDFS, OWL, or RIF) with a literal that has language tags, then I need a datatype that has language tags. xsd:string does not have languag tags, and RDF's plain literal is not a datatype. Hence rdf:PlainLiteral that is a datatype for strings with language tags. > Is it likely to encounter rdf:PlainLiteral in the wild? I don't off-hand know of any RDF parsers that do anything special with it. The answer is probably not really. But if RIF-like or OWL-like reasoning (and that includes OWL RL in this case, too, ie, a relatively simple OWL reasoning layer) is used on multilingual data, then rdf:PlainLiteral (or something like that) becomes unavoidable. The more generic fact is: my feeling is that RDF data (or vocabularies) in the wild is still dominated by English data (although I do not have exact measure). That is a separate problem but obviously related to the issue of rdf:PlainLiteral and its occurrence. Ivan > > - Steve > > -- > Steve Harris, CTO, Garlik Limited > 1-3 Halford Road, Richmond, TW10 6AW, UK > +44 20 8439 8203 http://www.garlik.com/ > Registered in England and Wales 535 7233 VAT # 849 0517 11 > Registered office: Thames House, Portsmouth Road, Esher, Surrey, KT10 9AD > > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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