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Re: Turtle, Qurtle, Super-Turtle, N-Triple, N-Quads, Trig - BC and Scope

From: Nathan <nathan@webr3.org>
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:34:21 +0000
Message-ID: <4D6EB7DD.8080903@webr3.org>
To: David Wood <david.wood@talis.com>
CC: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, RDF-WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
David Wood wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2011, at 14:32, Sandro Hawke wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 18:55 +0000, Nathan wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Okay, I'm lost, as to what's what and what is in scope, out of scope,
>>> possible and not.
>>>
>>> Is B.C. for turtle (data and consumers) to be maintained?
>>>
>>> Are Quads to be adopted?
>>>  - for turtle? (trig?)
>>>  - for some kind of qurtle?
>>>  - for some kind of super-turtle?
>>>  - for n-triples?
>>>  - would quads change the semantics? just the concepts?
>>>  - quads = named g-box, or just some "spare" 4th param?
>>>
>>> Is it even possible for us to do something not the same as current
>>> turtle? (charter wise)
>> Yes.   Specifically, the charter says:
>>
>>        Standardize the Turtle RDF Syntax.... Either that syntax or a
>>        related syntax should also support multiple graphs and graph
>>        stores.... This work should take into account the 14 January
>>        2008 Turtle Syntax document, N3, TriG, and the SPARQL Query
>>        Language syntax.
> 
> +1.

okay, so would there be a subset of this which is akin to the turtle we 
have now?

>> So far on this list I'm hearing near-consensus that:
>>
>> 1.  This should be done as two separate languages with separate mime
>> tipes.

+1

>> 2.  The first, our standard version of Turtle, should be very
>> conservative, inside the space of nearly all existing turtle documents
>> and software.  All we're doing on this is dealing with tricky edge cases
>> like "18."
> 
> 
> This is all fine with me, but I hope we can explore the possibility of a single standardized Turtle with BC to the existing Turtle before we agree to split into two different standardized syntaxes.

sorry, confused again - this seems like 3 specs now, because there's the 
superset-of-current-turtle mentioned in the charter, a subset of that 
(current-turtle), then you mention explore splitting in to two? are the 
two you refer to the two I mention here, or another superset above the 
charter mentioned one?

cheers, nathan
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