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Re: owl:sameAs/referential opacity Re: Can RDFstar be defined as only syntactic sugar on top of RDF (Re: weakness of embedded triples)

From: thomas lörtsch <tl@rat.io>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 23:18:07 +0100
Message-Id: <B4043725-5309-4B40-82B8-5791704BDE1C@rat.io>
Cc: public-rdf-star@w3.org
To: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine.champin@ercim.eu>
Just a quick check:

> On 17. Nov 2020, at 18:11, Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine.champin@ercim.eu> wrote:

[…]

>> +
>> 
>> Both "modes" used side by side would solve this problem:
>> 
>> 	<< :a :b :c >> :denies :d .
>> 	:a :b :c {| :exclaims :e |}
>> 
> No, because his concrete syntax would produce exactly the same abstract syntax as your previous example -- at least in my understanding, but I trust that Olaf would agree (see https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/9#issuecomment-708608422).
> 
> From the very beginning, embedded triples in RDF* are totally identified by their subject+predicate+object, there is now way to distinguish different mentions (tokens) of the same triple.

You mean
>> 	:a :b :c {| :d :e |}
is meant to annotate all triple tokens of type
	:a :b :c .
everywhere, anywhere?

> As I understand, this was a deliberate design choice.

And with what rationale?


Thomas

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