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Re: Agenda for 2020-12-11

From: Lassila, Ora <ora@amazon.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 16:59:13 +0000
To: "public-rdf-star@w3.org" <public-rdf-star@w3.org>
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I am with Peter on this. Particularly, discussions of syntax are hard for me when I don't know exactly what's "behind the syntax" (and I get these horrible flashbacks to RDF M+S WG).


Dr. Ora Lassila
Principal Graph Technologist
Amazon Web Services

´╗┐On 12/11/20, 9:54 AM, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:

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    I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with going ahead with technical
    details while I am still unclear as to just what RDF* is supposed to be.  For
    example, it is still unclear to me whether embedded triples are also supposed
    to be asserted - the initial RDF* said yes, the current document says no, some
    people in the group seem to be arguing for yes.  Similarly, the uniqueness of
    embedded triples does not appear to me to be determined - the initial RDF* and
    the current documents say yes in their formal sections but central examples
    have fatal flaws if embedded triples are unique.

    Can we please get these foundational problems ironed out before worrying about
    formal minutae?


    On 12/10/20 1:48 PM, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote:
    > Hi all,
    > tomorrow's call will be again on
    > https://classe-publique.univ-lyon1.fr/cha-2x1-tjt-iu3,

    > at 4Pm UTC:
    > https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=RDF%2A+call&iso=20201211T16&p1=1440&ah=1

    > and we will use W3C IRC server (http://irc.w3.org/) to minute the call, on
    > channel #rdf-star
    > I propose the following Agenda:
    > * New people on the call introduce themselves
    > * Review pending actions
    >     -
    > https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aaction

    > * Discuss the SPARQL* query semantics proposed by Olaf
    >     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/8#issuecomment-734258118

    >     Please have a look at it ahead of the call
    > * Discuss the annotation syntax
    >     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/9

    >     - pull-request: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58

    >     - preview: https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58.html

    >     - diff:
    > https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/58/2160503...7479002.html

    >     This extension of Turtle* have been around for a while on the mailing
    > list, so it would be good to document it more visibly. I would also like to
    > discuss how this makes the distinction between SA-mode and PG-mode moot
    > (https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58.html#sa-mode-and-pg-mode).
    > * Continue the discussion on syntactic sugar
    >     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/37

    > * Keep 15 minutes for open-ended discussions
    > Best

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