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Re: Agenda for 2020-12-11

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 09:52:56 -0500
To: public-rdf-star@w3.org
Message-ID: <a75a0097-efff-f92b-cff1-2721b4bd581d@gmail.com>
I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with going ahead with technical
details while I am still unclear as to just what RDF* is supposed to be.  For
example, it is still unclear to me whether embedded triples are also supposed
to be asserted - the initial RDF* said yes, the current document says no, some
people in the group seem to be arguing for yes.  Similarly, the uniqueness of
embedded triples does not appear to me to be determined - the initial RDF* and
the current documents say yes in their formal sections but central examples
have fatal flaws if embedded triples are unique.

Can we please get these foundational problems ironed out before worrying about
formal minutae?


peter


On 12/10/20 1:48 PM, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> tomorrow's call will be again on
> https://classe-publique.univ-lyon1.fr/cha-2x1-tjt-iu3,
>
> at 4Pm UTC:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=RDF%2A+call&iso=20201211T16&p1=1440&ah=1
>
> and we will use W3C IRC server (http://irc.w3.org/) to minute the call, on
> channel #rdf-star
>
>
>
> I propose the following Agenda:
>
> * New people on the call introduce themselves
>
> * Review pending actions
>
>     -
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aaction
>
> * Discuss the SPARQL* query semantics proposed by Olaf
>
>     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/8#issuecomment-734258118
>
>     Please have a look at it ahead of the call
>
> * Discuss the annotation syntax
>
>     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/9
>     - pull-request: https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58
>     - preview: https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58.html
>     - diff:
> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/58/2160503...7479002.html
>
>     This extension of Turtle* have been around for a while on the mailing
> list, so it would be good to document it more visibly. I would also like to
> discuss how this makes the distinction between SA-mode and PG-mode moot
> (https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/58.html#sa-mode-and-pg-mode).
>
> * Continue the discussion on syntactic sugar
>
>     - https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues/37
>
>
> * Keep 15 minutes for open-ended discussions
>
>
>
> Best
>
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