Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What arethepossibilities?

On 03/09/2019 16:20, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
> Hi Olaf,
> 
> Yes, I can lead that effort (if no one else wants to do it 😊)

Thank you!

> 
> Here is a sample version [1] of a template to collect those use cases. 
> It is based on a template with a contributor, a description of the use 
> case and if possible links to other parts of the document (requirements).
> 
> If you are happy with the idea, let me know where to push this draft so 
> that people can just contribute in the document (if needed).
> 
> HTH
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ghislain
> 
> [1] 
> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/gatemezing/work/blob/master/RDFStarUCandRequirements.html#Deliverables
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> *De : *Olaf Hartig <mailto:olaf.hartig@liu.se>
> *Envoyé le :*lundi 2 septembre 2019 18:46
> *À : *Ghislain ATEMEZING <mailto:ghislain.atemezing@gmail.com>
> *Cc : *public-rdf-star@w3.org <mailto:public-rdf-star@w3.org>
> *Objet :*Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What 
> arethepossibilities?
> 
> Hi Ghislain,
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> Would you volunteer to lead the effort of collecting such descriptions 
> of use
> 
> cases?
> 
> Olaf
> 
> On måndag 2 september 2019 kl. 15:17:48 CEST Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
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>  > Hi Olaf,
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>  > Re use cases consolidation
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>  >
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>  > I guess we can just collect them in a document as you are doing with the
> 
>  > spec. It will then be easier later on to reference and/or show the 
> coverage
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>  > of the tech spec.
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>  >
> 
>  > HTH
> 
>  > Best,
> 
>  > Ghislain
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>  > «Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none » (W. Shakespeare)
> 
>  > Web : http://atemezing.org
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>  >
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>  > De : Olaf Hartig
> 
>  > Envoyé le :lundi 2 septembre 2019 09:49
> 
>  > À : Ghislain ATEMEZING
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>  > Cc : public-rdf-star@w3.org
> 
>  > Objet :Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What 
> arethepossibilities?
> 
>  >
> 
>  > Hi Ghislain,
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>  >
> 
>  > On Mon, 2019-09-02 at 09:29 +0200, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
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>  > > Hi Olaf,
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>  > >
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>  > > Thanks for the clarification. Without reading the spec of Turtle*, I
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>  > > can see now what can be feasible or not.
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>  >
> 
>  > Great.
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>  >
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>  > > Will it be possible to consolidate somehow use cases for RDF*?
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>  >
> 
>  > That's a great idea! Do you have a proposal of how such work may be
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>  > organized?
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>  >
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>  > Thanks,
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>  > Olaf
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>  >
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>  > > Sorry if I missed that from the previous threads.
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > > Best,
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>  > >
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>  > > Ghislain
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > > ------------------------------------
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>  > >
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>  > > «Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none » (W. Shakespeare)
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>  > >
> 
>  > > Web : http://atemezing.org
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > > De : Olaf Hartig
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>  > > Envoyé le :dimanche 1 septembre 2019 21:11
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>  > > À : public-rdf-star@w3.org
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>  > > Cc : Ghislain ATEMEZING
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>  > > Objet :Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What are
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>  > > thepossibilities?
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > > Hi Ghislain,
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>  > >
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>  > > On lördag 31 augusti 2019 kl. 11:48:46 CEST Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
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>  > > > Hello,
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > Let me ask what can be feasible by combining TriG notation / Named
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>  > >
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>  > > Graph /
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>  > >
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>  > > > RDF* all together. I give below some examples, and ask what could be
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>  > > >
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>  > > > covered or not with the new extension.
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>  > > Syntactically, each of these examples is possible. However, they may
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>  > > be
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>  > >
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>  > > interpreted to represent different things. In the following, below
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>  > > each of
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>  > >
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>  > > these examples, I will write what I would consider as a reasonable
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>  > >
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>  > > interpretation. To avoid a similar discussion as we had it in the
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>  > > other
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>  > > thread, I assume that the property ':claims' in your examples is
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>  > > replaced by a
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>  > >
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>  > > property called ':asserts'.
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>  > > > #1 - Alice claims sth in a named graph regarding Bob.
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>  > > >
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>  > > > {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims  <http://example/graph/g> .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example/graph/g> {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > >
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>  > > My interpretation: Person Alice asserts the whole set of triples that
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>  > > make up
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>  > >
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>  > > the graph denoted by IRI <http://example/graph/g>.
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>  > >
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>  > > > #2- Alice claims sth in a graph regarding Bob with a confidence
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>  > >
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>  > > score
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>  > >
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>  > > > {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims  << <http://example/graph/g>
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>  > > >
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>  > > > :confidenceScore "0.8"^^xsd:double >> . }
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example/graph/g> {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > >
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>  > > My interpretation: Person Alice asserts that the graph denoted by IRI
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>  > > <http://
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>  > >
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>  > > example/graph/g> has a confidence score of 0.8.
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>  > >
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>  > > > #3- Alice claims sth in a graph regarding Bob with prov information
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>  > > >
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>  > > > {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims   <http://example/graph/g>  .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example/graph/g> {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > >
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>  > > > {
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>  > > >
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>  > > > <http://example.org/graph/g> :prov  << ex:website :lastUpdate
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>  > > >
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>  > > > "2018/10/06"^^xsd:date >>
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>  > > >
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>  > > > }
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>  > >
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>  > > My interpretation: First, as in example #1 above, person Alice asserts
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>  > > the
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>  > >
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>  > > whole set of triples that make up the graph denoted by IRI
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>  > > <http://example/
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>  > >
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>  > > graph/g>.
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>  > >
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>  > > Additionally (and totally independent of Alice's assertion), the
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>  > > provenance of
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>  > >
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>  > > that same graph is a triple saying that something denoted by the IRI
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>  > >
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>  > > ex:website was last updated on Oct.6, 2018.
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>  > > At its core, the latter sentence does not seem to make much sense
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>  > > ("the
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>  > >
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>  > > provenance of some graph is a specific triple"). However, that's what
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>  > > I would
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>  > >
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>  > > interpret from the nested RDF* triple at the end of your example #3.
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > >
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>  > > Best,
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>  > >
> 
>  > > Olaf
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>  > >
> 
>  > > > Best,
> 
>  > > >
> 
>  > > > Ghislain
> 
>  > > >
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>  > > >
> 
>  > > > «Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none » (W. Shakespeare)
> 
>  > > >
> 
>  > > > Web : http://atemezing.org
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>  > > >
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