RE: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What arethepossibilities?

Hi Olaf,
Yes, I can lead that effort (if no one else wants to do it 😊 ) 

Here is a sample version [1] of a template to collect those use cases. It is based on a template with a contributor, a description of the use case and if possible links to other parts of the document (requirements).

If you are happy with the idea, let me know where to push this draft so that people can just contribute in the document (if needed). 

HTH
Best,
Ghislain 

[1] https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/gatemezing/work/blob/master/RDFStarUCandRequirements.html#Deliverables

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De : Olaf Hartig
Envoyé le :lundi 2 septembre 2019 18:46
À : Ghislain ATEMEZING
Cc : public-rdf-star@w3.org
Objet :Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What arethepossibilities?

Hi Ghislain,

Sounds good.

Would you volunteer to lead the effort of collecting such descriptions of use 
cases?

Olaf


On måndag 2 september 2019 kl. 15:17:48 CEST Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
> Hi Olaf,
> Re use cases consolidation
> 
> I guess we can just collect them in a document as you are doing with the
> spec. It will then be easier later on to reference and/or show the coverage
> of the tech spec.
> 
> HTH
> Best,
> Ghislain
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> «Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none » (W. Shakespeare)
> Web : http://atemezing.org
> 
> De : Olaf Hartig
> Envoyé le :lundi 2 septembre 2019 09:49
> À : Ghislain ATEMEZING
> Cc : public-rdf-star@w3.org
> Objet :Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What arethepossibilities?
> 
> Hi Ghislain,
> 
> On Mon, 2019-09-02 at 09:29 +0200, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
> > Hi Olaf,
> > 
> > Thanks for the clarification. Without reading the spec of Turtle*, I
> > can see now what can be feasible or not.
> 
> Great.
> 
> > Will it be possible to consolidate somehow use cases for RDF*?
> 
> That's a great idea! Do you have a proposal of how such work may be
> organized?
> 
> Thanks,
> Olaf
> 
> > Sorry if I missed that from the previous threads.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Ghislain
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > «Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none » (W. Shakespeare)
> > 
> > Web : http://atemezing.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > De : Olaf Hartig
> > Envoyé le :dimanche 1 septembre 2019 21:11
> > À : public-rdf-star@w3.org
> > Cc : Ghislain ATEMEZING
> > Objet :Re: Combining TriG / Named Graph / RDF* / - What are
> > thepossibilities?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Ghislain,
> > 
> > On lördag 31 augusti 2019 kl. 11:48:46 CEST Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Let me ask what can be feasible by combining TriG notation / Named
> > 
> > Graph /
> > 
> > > RDF* all together. I give below some examples, and ask what could be
> > > 
> > > covered or not with the new extension.
> > 
> > Syntactically, each of these examples is possible. However, they may
> > be
> > 
> > interpreted to represent different things. In the following, below
> > each of
> > 
> > these examples, I will write what I would consider as a reasonable
> > 
> > interpretation. To avoid a similar discussion as we had it in the
> > other
> > 
> > thread, I assume that the property ':claims' in your examples is
> > replaced by a
> > 
> > property called ':asserts'.
> > 
> > > #1 - Alice claims sth in a named graph regarding Bob.
> > > 
> > > {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims  <http://example/graph/g> .
> > > 
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > <http://example/graph/g> {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > }
> > 
> > My interpretation: Person Alice asserts the whole set of triples that
> > make up
> > 
> > the graph denoted by IRI <http://example/graph/g>.
> > 
> > > #2- Alice claims sth in a graph regarding Bob with a confidence
> > 
> > score
> > 
> > > {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims  << <http://example/graph/g>
> > > 
> > > :confidenceScore "0.8"^^xsd:double >> . }
> > > 
> > > <http://example/graph/g> {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > }
> > 
> > My interpretation: Person Alice asserts that the graph denoted by IRI
> > <http://
> > 
> > example/graph/g> has a confidence score of 0.8.
> > 
> > > #3- Alice claims sth in a graph regarding Bob with prov information
> > > 
> > > {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  foaf:name  "Alice" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Alice>  :claims   <http://example/graph/g>  .
> > > 
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > <http://example/graph/g> {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  rdf:type  foaf:Person .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:name  "Bob" .
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/Bob>  foaf:age "23"^^xsd:integer .
> > > 
> > > }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > {
> > > 
> > > <http://example.org/graph/g> :prov  << ex:website :lastUpdate
> > > 
> > > "2018/10/06"^^xsd:date >>
> > > 
> > > }
> > 
> > My interpretation: First, as in example #1 above, person Alice asserts
> > the
> > 
> > whole set of triples that make up the graph denoted by IRI
> > <http://example/
> > 
> > graph/g>.
> > 
> > Additionally (and totally independent of Alice's assertion), the
> > provenance of
> > 
> > that same graph is a triple saying that something denoted by the IRI
> > 
> > ex:website was last updated on Oct.6, 2018.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At its core, the latter sentence does not seem to make much sense
> > ("the
> > 
> > provenance of some graph is a specific triple"). However, that's what
> > I would
> > 
> > interpret from the nested RDF* triple at the end of your example #3.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Olaf
> > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > > Ghislain
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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