- From: Thomas Lörtsch <tl@rat.io>
- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 15:48:07 +0100
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Cc: RDF-star Working Group <public-rdf-star-wg@w3.org>
> On 8. Dec 2023, at 15:18, Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> At the teleconference yesterday I mentioned that there could be user-visible differences between different views of how to proceed, even when there is some consensus that different views are essentially the same.
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> Here is one example of a user-visible divergence. Consider the following input, written in the community group syntax.
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> :liz :spouse :dick {| :start 1964; :end 1974 |} .
> :liz :spouse :dick {| :start 1975; :end 1976 |} .
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> In the community graph version of RDF-star this results in one asserted triple with subject :liz that is the subject of four triples. In SPARQL-star, the BGP
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> :liz :spouse :dick {| :start 1964; :end 1976 |} .
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> would match against a graph constructed from this input.
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> In labelled property graphs this would appear to result in two asserted triples with subject :liz, each with two property-value pairs. The above BGP would not match.
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> So there is a decided visible difference between the community graph version of RDF-star and labelled property graphs.
Yes. I believe a proposal has somewhere, somewhen (by me) been made that the shorthand syntax be extended by an identifier, e.g.
:liz :spouse :dick { id:1 | :start 1964; :end 1974 |} .
:liz :spouse :dick { id:2 | :start 1975; :end 1976 |} .
which would map to
id:1 rdfx:occurrenceOf << :liz :spouse :dick >> ;
:start 1964; :end 1974 .
id:2 rdfx:occurrenceOf << :liz :spouse :dick >> ;
:start 1975; :end 1976 .
> If I am correct in reading the (sparse) information available about RDFn, a -star extension of RDFn would conform to the community group reading.
My reading is that two occurrences get two different identifiers. The identifiers are not a function of the triple alone. Anyway, even if it isn’t yet it seems that that would be easy to add.
> So there would be noticeable differences between an extended RDFn and labelled property graphs.
>
> I am not aware of any proposal for using named graphs that says what the above would result in there, so it is unclear which side a named graphs version of -star would fit into.
The nested named graph proposal is very definite about this, and it is clearly in the multi-edge camp
Thomas
> peter
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