- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 13:56:51 -0700
- To: kcoyle@kcoyle.net, public-rdf-shapes@w3.org
My view is that there should be no requirement that focus nodes are validated against the filter shapes of a shape before they are validated against the constraints of the shape. I have previously mentioned several reasons that led me to this view. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications On 09/28/2016 06:40 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: > Peter, how would you describe the action that takes place then? Because there > is an implied action and work flow. Implemented? executed? enforced? resolved? > (I'm running through the thesaurus entries.) > > kc > > On 9/27/16 3:43 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: >> For starters, filter shapes are not "applied to the data graph", so, no. >> >> peter >> >> >> On 09/27/2016 03:38 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote: >>> Peter, would this suggestion work better for you? I assume someone could argue >>> that "applied" is not defined. >>> >>> Holger >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28/09/2016 1:44, Karen Coyle wrote: >>>> Filter shapes must be ... >>>> - applied to the data graph >>>> ... before validating.... >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/26/16 4:38 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote: >>>>> Does anyone else find this sentence unclear? If yes, could someone >>>>> suggest alternative wording? >>>>> >>>>> "Filter shapes MUST be validated before validating the associated shapes >>>>> or constraints." >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Holger >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27/09/2016 1:52, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: >>>>>> How is a shape "validated"? >>>>>> >>>>>> This problem even affects the second half of the sentence I initially >>>>>> quoted. >>>>>> >>>>>> peter >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/26/2016 12:18 AM, Holger Knublauch wrote: >>>>>>> Replaced with "validated": >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/commit/d4fbdebd7044cd79f35985a75a54994ea3facde9 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Holger >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26/09/2016 15:59, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: >>>>>>>> "Filter shapes MUST be evaluated before validating the associated >>>>>>>> shapes or >>>>>>>> constraints." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Evaluation is not defined. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
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