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Re: on the closing of ISSUE-163

From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:49:57 -0700
To: Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokostas@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
Cc: "public-rdf-sha." <public-rdf-shapes@w3.org>
Message-ID: <8dcd6772-eb90-b0dd-0e35-e1870a9ca75b@gmail.com>
So ISSUE-163 was closed based on incorrect information then.

ISSUE-163 was opened in response to an external comment, as shown in the issue
record at https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/track/issues/163

The working group should present the commenter with a clear indication that
the issue has been cleanly closed.  This would require re-opening the issue in
light of its first closure being based on incorrect information.  Given that
the issue was incorrectly closed a second closure should involve a different
working group member examining the SHACL document to see whether all remaining
uses of variations of "constrain" are appropriate.  When the issue cleanly
closed the working group should send a message to the commenter stating that
it has closed an issue based on his comments and asking whether he is
satisfied with the resolution of the issue.

Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Nuance Communications


On 09/28/2016 07:10 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote:
> Hi Peter, Karen, 
> I already eliminated all these occurrences
> https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/commits/gh-pages
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
> <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Peter, I did miss the "constrains" in the property pair section, so I will
>     try to come up with a different wording for that and will propose it. The
>     usage in 4.7.2 is, IMO, in accordance with English language usage, and I
>     think is appropriate here.
> 
>     kc
> 
> 
>     On 9/27/16 9:16 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> 
>             >From Section 4.6.1 of Shapes Constraint Language (SHACL) W3C
>             Editor's Draft 27
> 
>         September 2016 at http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl
>         <http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/shacl>
> 
>         "sh:equals constrains a pair of properties so that the sets of values
>         of both
>         properties at a given focus node must be equal."
> 
>         This contradicts the claim in
>         https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2016Sep/0046.html
>         <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-data-shapes-wg/2016Sep/0046.html>
>         that ``constraint is still used, but no more "constrain" or
>         "constraining". So
>         it's a thing, but not a verb.''
> 
>         There is a total of six uses of "constrains" in the document.
> 
> 
>         The working group appears to have closed ISSUE-163 based on incorrect
>         information.
> 
> 
>         Peter F. Patel-Schneider
>         Nuance Communications
> 
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     Karen Coyle
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> 
> 
> 
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> Dimitris Kontokostas
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