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Re: Moving forward

From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:40:45 -0400
To: Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
Cc: public-rdf-shapes@w3.org
Message-ID: <20140808014044.GC32749@w3.org>
* Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com> [2014-08-08 11:12+1000]
> I am never quite sure how strict the initial charter needs to be
> followed, and whether the number of deliverables dictates what will
> be produced. Maybe a question to Eric: can deliverables be split or
> removed at runtime of the WG? In that case the charter can indeed be
> some fluffy paragraphs that leave everything open and we move on...

The charter is a social contract which serves three main purposes:

  Shape the patent commitment made by participating organizations.

  Advertise the intended work to potential participants.

  Help keep the the WG from being distracted by documents from
  extraneous proposals.

It's not worth wordsmithing, but it is helpful if everyone in the room
agrees on why they're in the room and what work they'll do there.

> Holger
> On 8/8/2014 11:09, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> >Then you would only need one document to cover two deliverables.
> >
> >Remember we are working with RDF, so there is no unique
> >deliverable assumption.  :-)
> >
> >peter
> >
> >
> >On 08/07/2014 06:01 PM, Holger Knublauch wrote:
> >>On 8/8/2014 10:58, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> >>>Well right now I don't see any requirement that the WG provides a firm
> >>>definition of how shapes work, nor just what is a shape.  I
> >>>was proposing to
> >>>close this hole.
> >>>
> >>>There is nothing in my proposal against having the syntax be particular
> >>>kinds of RDF graphs, nor having the semantics be a mapping
> >>>into SPARQL (or
> >>>OWL CWA, or even Z), as long as there is a firm definition of
> >>>what is going on.
> >>
> >>But if the first deliverable already defines RDF as its syntax,
> >>what would the
> >>second deliverable contain then?
> >>
> >>Holger
> >>
> >>>>>>>> 1. A syntax and semantics for shapes specifying how to
> >>>>>construct shape
> >>>>>>>> expressions and how shape expressions are evaluated
> >>>>>against RDF graphs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2. An RDF vocabulary [such as Resource Shapes] for
> >>>>>expressing these
> >>>>>>>> shapes in RDF triples, so they can
> >>>>>>>> be stored, queried, analyzed, and manipulated with
> >>>>>normal RDF tools.
> >>


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