- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:27:30 -0400
- To: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
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Congratulations on the publication of the RDFa syntax and processing
Candidate Recommendation [1] . Although I have been looking at RDFa in
part to inform redrafting of a W3C TAG Finding on the Self-Describing Web
[2], these comments have not been reviewd by the TAG or by any other
workgroup of which I am a member. They also do not necessarily represent
any corporate position or concerns of my employer, IBM. So, just my 2
cents. With those caveats:
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Substantive comments
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* HTML or XHTML?
The title of the draft refers to XHTML. Section 3.10 says, somewhat
confusingly: "The aim of RDFa is to allow a single [RDF graph] to be
carried in various types of document mark-up. However, this specification
deals only with RDFa in XHTML" This leaves it a bit unclear as to what it
is from this Recommendation that might apply beyond XHTML. After all, it
says that everying in this specification is XHTML only. Also, the
abstract says: "RDFa is a specification for attributes to be used with
languages such as HTML and XHTML to express structured data." That
suggests applicability beyond XHTML, but only to HTML-family languages.
I suggest that the whole question of which sorts of languages are covered,
and in particular whether there is any normative applicability to
non-XHTML variants of HTML, should be clarified.
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* Are you defining conformance for markup, a processor, or both?
The abstract says: "This document is a detailed syntax specification for
RDFa..." (no mention of processors)
Section 4.3: defines conformance for a "processor", presumably a piece of
software or maybe hardware, with requirements such as: "A conforming RDFa
Processor MUST make available to a consuming application a single [RDF
graph] containing all possible triples generated by using the rules in the
Processing Model section. " It also quite nearby says: "This
specification uses the term [default graph] to mean all of the triples
asserted by a document according to the Processing Model section."
I tend to feel that specification of a lanuage and its mapping to things
like default graphs is quite a different thing from the specification of a
piece of software with certain required outputs. Indeed, one can imagine
lots of different software that would do useful things with RDFa but that
would, for one reason or another, never bother to construct the entire
default graph. Is such software non-conforming?
Thus my preference, and its only a preference, would be to see the
definition of default graph retained for reference by other
specifications, but the definition of processor conformance moved either
to a separate document or perhaps to a normative appendix of the syntax
and processing document. I think a more appropriate title for such a
section might be: "Conformance requirements for general purpose RDFa
processors", signalling that general purpose software that builds the
whole graph is only one kind of useful software that you might want to
deploy for RDFa.
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Section 4.1:
"3. The start tag of the root element of the document must explicitly
contain an xmlns declaration for the XHTML namespace [XMLNAMES]. The
namespace URI for XHTML is defined to be http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml.
Sample root element
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">"
It's not entirely clear whether this requirement would be satisified by a
different root element like this, since it does have an xmlns declaration
for the XHTML namespace:
<html xmlns:prefix="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">"
This of course defines a completely different root element name, and I
suspect it's not intended to be conforming. Either way, I suggest that
the rule be clarified.
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Editorial Comments
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Section 3.10:
"is always an [URI reference]"
"statement can be an [URI reference]"
Should those be "a" URI reference? (could be my grammar is rusty, but it
seems the same case as "a yellow banana" vs. "an yellow banana")
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Section 4.1:
"Such a document MUST meet all of the following critera:
1. ...
2. ...
3. ...
4. There SHOULD be a DOCTYPE
5. There SHOULD be @version
6. There SHOULD be @profile...."
The nesting of SHOULDs within a MUST seems odd. I suggest you split this
into two sets of clauses, one labeled as requirements that MUST be met,
and a second with desideratat that SHOULD be attended to.
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I hope these comments are helpful to you in carrying forward the work on
RDFa. Thank you very much.
Noah
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/CR-rdfa-syntax-20080620/
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/selfDescribingDocuments.html
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Noah Mendelsohn
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