- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:20:12 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org, public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
The record [1] of today's RDF-in-XHTML Task Force telecon is available for review. Thanks to Manu for scribing. [1] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html A text snapshot follows. ---- RDF-in-XHTML Task Force 14 Aug 2008 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0053.html See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2008-08-07 [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-irc [4] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html Attendees Present Manu Sporny, Michael Hausenblas, Ben Adida, Ralph Swick, Steven Pemberton, Shane McCarron Regrets Mark Birbeck Chair Ben Adida Scribe Manu Sporny Contents * Topics 1. Action Items 2. Implementation Report 3. ISSUE-122 4. ISSUE-125 * Summary of Action Items _____________________________________________________ <mhausenblas> I got a bit of a scheduling issue here today ... can only stay around till half-past, latest. sorry ... <ShaneM> "know of know" ? <Ralph> oops <Ralph> finger-brain glitch <Ralph> "know of no" of course <mhausenblas> [11]http://torrez.us/code/rdfa-js/tests/ [11] http://torrez.us/code/rdfa-js/tests/ Action Items Michael: Is the RDFa test harness ready for client-side stuff? benadida: It's not entirely correct for negative tests. ... If they overestimate how good the parser is, it wouldn't be good. Michael: I can integrate it on Monday. benadida: That would be a good goal. ... Let's talk about IR, wrapping up ISSUE-122 and ISSUE-125 ... any other outstanding issues? ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [WITHDRAWN] [12] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 Michael: I talked about this with Fabien. ... [13]Fabien clarified that he was looking at the manifest comment not at the spec [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0030.html ACTION: Michael to update Test Suite Manifest to correct tests 52 and 53 descriptions. [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors drafts coming down the pipe. [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES] [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22] [CONTINUES] [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22 ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to be explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs. [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [DONE] [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21 ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send out notification to all working groups. [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES] [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20 ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific editorial changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122. [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] [DONE] [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23 ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] [20] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [WITHDRAWN] [21] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15 Ralph: Do you want to talk to him before or after PR? benadida: After should be fine. Ralph: Then we should drop this? benadida: yep, <mhausenblas> +1 ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add note about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..." [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [DONE] [22] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20 ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES] [23] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07 ACTION: Shane to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [CONTINUES] [24] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21 reassigned from Manu to Shane ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES] [25] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03 ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the rdfa.info wiki [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [CONTINUES] [26] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16 ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES] [27] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES] [28] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07 ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES] [29] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend [30]http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES] [30] http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials [31] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08 <mhausenblas> [32]http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rss/ [32] http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rss/ ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES] [33] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11 ACTION: Ralph to make [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [CONTINUES] [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt [35] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05 ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES] [36] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06 ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES] [37] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 Implementation Report benadida: Are you missing stuff from me, Michael? ... Do you have the link for SPREAD? ... anything else you need? Michael: Would be good if somebody could go through the entire document. ... If somebody wanted to fill out section 4 more, that would be good. <mhausenblas> [38]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ [38] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ benadida: I need to fix up the EARL report. ... for the client side stuff. ... client side (Javascript) RDFa parsers. Michael: I just need the client side Javascript EARL reports. ShaneM: What's happening monday? Michael: We promised to have Implementation Report to SWD by Tuesday, Aug. 19th. ShaneM: So, are we preparing a PR draft for Tuesday? benadida: As far as content goes, yes, that is the goal. ... Is that an issue or a blocker with that? ShaneM: No, just that the PR document has a different status section. Ralph: The internal editors draft is fine. ... We'll change the status section when both workgroups want to move the document forward to PR. benadida: Yes. Michael: Anything else? benadida: Nope, I'll get the Javascript implementation EARL reports to you. Ralph: You're okay with Test 31? Canonicalization not required? Michael: Yes. Michael: There's [39]the link explaining it. [39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0056.html <ShaneM> can you confirm the imp report will be at [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report [40] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report <mhausenblas> yes, Shane I confirm it hereby [Michael departs] ISSUE-122 benadida: Ralph, you had a lot of suggestions and they all sounded great. benadida: Shane pointed out that one of them was a "maybe". Ralph: In the latest editors draft <Ralph> [41]current editor's draft [41] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/ <Ralph> [42]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#s_rdfaindetail [42] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#s_rdfaindetail <Ralph> [43]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#sec_5.5. [43] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#sec_5.5. Ralph: Where the @@@ is ... That's not where it should be. Ralph: I asked if adding the parethesis helped at all? ... I think they definitely don't help in section 5.5. ... Don't think it hurts in section 6. benadida: It's good to have because it's precise. ... That seemed to be the only point of contention. ... But that looks good. Manu: No comments. Steven: No comments. <Steven> No comments benadida: So the change at the end of section 2 looks good to me. ... CreativeCommons is recommending rel="license" instead of rel="cc:license" Ralph: Only one example of it, let's change it. benadida: We should respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's proposed draft tweaked with what we've discussed. Ralph: I can update it based on what we discussed and send it out. <benadida> ACTION: Ben and Manu to test implementations on step 9 (no child nodes with @property) [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] benadida: I think the wording is correct, so that looks good for the change to step 9. Manu: That looks correct. <benadida> PROPOSE: to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft, tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section 6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9 no child nodes situation. <Ralph> +1 <Manu> +1 <Steven> +1 ShaneM: +1 ACTION: Ralph to send note to Alan regarding ISSUE-122 resolution [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action24] RESOLUTION: Ralph to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft, tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section 6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9 no child nodes situation. ISSUE-125 benadida: This has to do with us mentioning @name in the syntax document. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the document. Ralph: Yes. ShaneM: Yes. Ralph: It is a "dinosaur bone". <benadida> PROPOSE: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it has no impact on output of RDFa parser. <Manu> +1 <Ralph> +1 <Steven> +1 <ShaneM> +1 RESOLUTION: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it has no impact on output of RDFa parser. <Ralph> Champagne time! All Issues Closed ACTION: Shane to respond to ISSUE-125 on mailing list [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action25] benadida: I believe that is everything, any other issues for PR or anything else? <ShaneM> [47]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080814/ [47] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080814/ Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Ben and Manu to test implementations on step 9 (no child nodes with @property) [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] [NEW] ACTION: Michael to update Test Suite Manifest to correct tests 52 and 53 descriptions. [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Ralph to send note to Alan regarding ISSUE-122 resolution [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action24] [NEW] ACTION: Shane to respond to ISSUE-125 on mailing list [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action25] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors drafts coming down the pipe. [recorded in [52]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in [53]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22] [PENDING] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in [55]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the rdfa.info wiki [recorded in [56]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in [57]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in [58]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send out notification to all working groups. [recorded in [59]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in [60]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend [61]http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in [62]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in [63]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to make [64]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen recorded in [65]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING] ACTION: Shane to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded in [66]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [PENDING] ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI [recorded in [67]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in [68]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [52] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 [53] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07 [54] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22 [55] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03 [56] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16 [57] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 [58] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07 [59] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20 [60] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 [61] http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials [62] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08 [63] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11 [64] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt [65] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05 [66] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21 [67] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06 [68] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12 [DONE] ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in [69]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add note about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..." [recorded in [70]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [DONE] ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to be explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs. [recorded in [71]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [DONE] ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific editorial changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122. [recorded in [72]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] [69] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 [70] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20 [71] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21 [72] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23 [WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in [73]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in [74]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [73] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15 [74] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01 [End of minutes] _____________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [75]scribe.perl version 1.133 ([76]CVS log) $Date: 2008/08/14 16:19:04 $ [75] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [76] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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