Agenda 2010-10-19

Hi all,

Conditional on whether Eric as the main editor of the fed draft can join us, I would like to continue where we stopped last time, discussing some of the federation issues. Basically what I would like to see is that Greg guides us roughly through his comments, and then we may be able to discuss a bit further Carlos' proposal of certainly bounded vars. As this is a time-allowed feature, I don't want to spend too much time discussing here, but rather see whether we can have a way foreward, i.e. let's fix time to a max of 15-20min.

Second bigger issue we need to get going again is test cases, I made some fixes in the test case structure doc, which I'd kindly ask for review. Further, let's see whether we can - at least conditionally the minor changes in the test case structure doc - approve some test cases.

Finally, let's see if we get to the aggregates issues we already had on the last week's agenda, and I also  put the discussion on GROUPing and SELECT * related to potentially bound variables also on the agenda, (aware that we probably won't get that far this week, but not to forget it...) 

Axel

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 • Date of Call: Tuesday October 19, 2010
 • Time of Call: 15:00 UK, 10:00 (East US)
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 • Duration: 60 minutes
 • Chair: Axel Polleres
 • Scribe: Paul Gearon (Scribe List)
 • Link to Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-10-19
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 • Admin (10min)
  • PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-10-12
  • Next regular meeting: 2010-10-19 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EDT (scribe: Alex Passant)
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 • Federation Issues:
  • Greg's comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0433.html
  • Axel's mails: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010OctDec/0042.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010OctDec/0022.html
  • Certainly bound definition (Carlos) vs. Potentially bound
 • Test Cases:
  • Fixes in Test case vocabulary, see [1]
  • Basic Update Test cases, see http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/basic-update/
  • Delete Data, see http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete-data/ (may need slight adaptions, following vocab changes)
  • Delete Where, see http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete-where/ (may need slight adaptions, following vocab changes)
  • Delete http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/ (may need slight adaptions, following vocab changes)
  • Entailment http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/entailment/ (Birte's proposal seems not yet implemented?)
 • Aggregates Issues:
  • Unbound in groups, cf. mail http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010OctDec/0040.html
  • GROUP_Concat, order parameter, cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010OctDec/0041.html
 • (probably next time) Potentially bound variables:
  • for "SELECT *": What does it mean, is potentially bound ok to diambiguate it?
  • restriction within Select Expressions: how about aggregates? see Andy's, Axel's, Lee's mails

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