Re: Shortcuts in Update/Explanatory queries in http-rdf-update

mini-remark here (which also applies to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update , BTW):

Last F2F:
RESOLVED: semicolons are a required separator for update operations, and either ";" or <EOF> terminates (and empty-string is an acceptable command)

http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25#resolution_4

so, the definitions should be changed to use semicolons

On 16 Jul 2010, at 18:02, Alexandre Passant wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> While we closed ISSUE-24 [1] and allow moving data between graphs [2], I'd like to re-open the discussion on shortcuts for the related commands - started by Steve and Andy [3].
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> In particular:
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> 1) Copy data from one graph to another
> 
> COPY ( [GRAPH] <g2> | DEFAULT) INTO ( [GRAPH] <g1> | DEFAULT)
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> shortcut for
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> DROP SILENT (GRAPH <g1> | DEFAULT)
> INSERT { ( GRAPH <g1> | DEFAULT) { ?s ?p ?o } } WHERE { ( GRAPH <g2> | DEFAULT) { ?s ?p ?o } }
> 
> 2) Move data from one graph to another
> 
> MOVE ( [GRAPH] <g2> | DEFAULT) INTO ( [GRAPH] <g1> | DEFAULT)
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> shortcut for
> 
> DROP SILENT ( GRAPH <g1> | DEFAULT)
> INSERT { (GRAPH <g1> | DEFAULT) { ?s ?p ?o } } WHERE { (GRAPH <g2> | DEFAULT) { ?s ?p ?o } }
> DROP ( GRAPH <g2> | DEFAULT)
> 
> 2) Add data from one graph to another
> 
> ADD ( [GRAPH] <g2> | DEFAULT) INTO ( [GRAPH] <g1> | DEFAULT)
> 
> shortcut for
> 
> INSERT { (GRAPH <g1> | DEFAULT) { ?s ?p ?o } } WHERE { (GRAPH <g2> | DEFAULT)  { ?s ?p ?o } }
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> Previous concerns by Andy and Steve where about "attempting to define syntactic shortcuts in a language that's not in widespread use yet".
> Yet, I find that these command could reduce the burden of some useful patterns, e.g. when having temporary graphs and then moving their data into "permanent graphs".
> Might be relevant when dealing with temporal information (blogs, sensors, etc.) that needs to be processed / validated before being considered stable enough.
> 
> I'd like to start the discussion here and follow-up on a next t-con (27th, I'm not available next week) depending on how it goes.
> 
> Alex.
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/24
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-01-12#resolution_8
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0676.html
> 
> --
> Dr. Alexandre Passant
> Digital Enterprise Research Institute
> National University of Ireland, Galway
> :me owl:sameAs <http://apassant.net/alex> .
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Received on Tuesday, 27 July 2010 13:57:13 UTC