- From: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:15:12 +0000
- To: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@talis.com>
- Cc: SPARQL Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
On 8 Mar 2010, at 15:57, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> On 08/03/2010 2:20 PM, Steve Harris wrote:
>> On 7 Mar 2010, at 22:57, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>
>>> Overall - we seem to have the start of a possible design and so this
>>> message is about details.
>>>
>>> On 07/03/2010 9:33 PM, Steve Harris wrote:
>>>> On 7 Mar 2010, at 17:42, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ISSUE-53
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose the following to define ExprMultiSet:
>>>>>
>>>>> -------
>>>>>
>>>>> Let Ω be a partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> ExprMultiSet(Ω) =
>>>>> { eval(expr,μ) | μ in Ω such that eval(μ(expr)) is defined }
>>>>> UNION
>>>>> { e | μ in Ω such that eval(μ(expr)) is undefined }
>>>>>
>>>>> where "e" is some symbol that is distinct from all RDF terms.
>>>>>
>>>>> card[x]:
>>>>> if DISTINCT:
>>>>> card[x] = 1 if there exists μ in Ω such that x = eval(μ(expr))
>>>>> card[x] = 0 otherwise
>>>>> else
>>>>> card[x] = count of μ in Ω such that x = eval(μ(expr))
>>>>
>>>> I find the reuse of the term ExprMultiset as a function very
>>>> confusing,
>>>> but I think I understand the proposal.
>>>
>>> It's just trying to write the ExprMultiset based on Ω for which
>>> there
>>> is no notation. I suppose it should involve μ. It only about
>>> whether
>>> you like to write definitions with free terms or not.
>>>
>>> "ExprMultiset based on Ω, expr = ... "
>>
>> I believe that was handled in the definition of Aggregation()
>> previously, but possibly there's some term missing.
>>
>
> ExprMultiset appears first in:
>
> [[
> Aggregation(GroupClause, ExprMultiset, func, Ω) =
>
> { merge(k, func( { μ'(exp) | exp in ExprMultiset, μ' in Ω' } ) |
> (k, Ω') in Partition(GroupClause, Ω) }
> ]]
>
> but also
>
> [[
> If this keyword is present then any
> duplicate values in exp · μ' are removed, effectively making
> ExprMultiset a set.
> ]]
>
> It seems to be used both as a set of expressions, and also as the
> results after evaluation.
I think rather the comment on the end is just wrong.
> I'm giving a name+definition to the thing that is the outcome of
> evaluating the expression over a multiset of solutions. This is
> then used on a partition.
Right, currently that doesn't have a name
> (which reminds me - there is only one expression in an aggregate in
> the stardard ones but it's not an impossible to think of n-ary ones
> e.g.
> min-distance(point1, point2))
It's a Multiset currently, hence the name. e.g. MAX(?x, ?y) w.r.t. ?
x=1,2 / ?y=3,4 gives MAX({1,3,2,4}).
Lee had some good usecases at the F2F for making it a multiset of
expressions.
- Steve
> Some definitions:
> rough wording - needs refining
> only copes with one expression
> does not deal with aggregator parameters
>
> --------
> Defn: ExprValueMultiSet
>
> An ExprValueMultiSetis the multi set formed by evaluating the an
> expression for each solution bind of a multiset of solutions.
>
> ExprValueMultiSet of expr and Ω =
> { eval(expr,μ) | μ in Ω such that eval(μ(expr)) is defined }
> UNION
> { e | μ in Ω such that eval(μ(expr)) is undefined }
>
> where "e" is some symbol that is distinct from all RDF terms.
>
> card[x]:
> if DISTINCT:
> card[x] = 1 if there exists μ in Ω such that x = eval(μ(expr))
> card[x] = 0 otherwise
> else
> card[x] = count of μ in Ω such that x = eval(μ(expr))
>
> --------
>
> Defn: Aggregation
>
> An aggregation is the multiset of solutions forms by aggregating the
> solutions in a partition, for each partition in a group, together
> with the key for the group:
>
> Aggregation(GroupClause, ExprValueMultiSet, func, var, Ω) =
>
> { merge(k, (var, func( EVMS ) )
> | EVMS is the ExprValueMultiSet of (expr, Ω' )
> (k, Ω') in Partition(GroupClause, Ω) }
>
> card[x] = 1 if x in Aggregation else 0
> # The key is different in each row so there will be no duplicates.
>
> --------
>
> I added "var" as the variable being bound to the aggregate value but
> also we have situations where it is no variable name given.
>
> Maybe a definition that just defines the value is better and leave
> the binding and merging the place the aggregate is used. That's
> also not straight forward to align the values for each partition
> with the keys.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
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