- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:39:00 +0100
- To: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
- CC: Andy Seaborne <andy.seaborne@talis.com>, "public-rdf-dawg@w3.org Group" <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4B764904.7060906@w3.org>
On 2010-2-12 17:13 , Steve Harris wrote: > We did already discuss a very similar design, put forward by Eric P., > there wasn't much enthusiasm from the group at that time. Ah, I did/do not remember that. Maybe I was not there... Ivan > > People may have changed their minds of course. > > - Steve > > On 12 Feb 2010, at 10:28, Ivan Herman wrote: > >> The question is whether we should 'keep the door open' for Emanuele's >> design until the f2f and try to find some time to discuss there. I am >> not fully convinced of the value of always referring back to SQL (eg, I >> am not an SQL user, so this argument does not resonate for me) and I did >> find value in Emanuele's design which, in some way, might be more >> succinct than what we have... >> >> I do not want to put up a fight for this alternative design, but I would >> not want to give the impression to dismiss it too lightly >> >> Ivan >> >> On 2010-2-11 15:05 , Andy Seaborne wrote: >>> I think we need to recognize that Emanuele's design is not just about >>> syntax and it allows for things that can't be done in SPARQL 1.1 without >>> duplication of patterns (e.g. multiple aggregates over the same >>> pattern). >>> >>> While it's attractive to be able to do such thing, on balance, I don't >>> propose we address such functionality in this round. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> On 11/02/2010 10:08, Steve Harris wrote: >>>> c.f. >>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0006.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Emanuele, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your comment regarding the SPARQL 1.1 working draft syntax >>>> for aggregate operations. >>>> >>>> The working group did consider an aggregate design similar to the one >>>> you propose while discussing the various syntax options. >>>> >>>> However, the overall opinion of the group was that the familiarity of >>>> the SQL-style aggregate operations was of a greater benefit than the >>>> terseness of the syntax. >>>> >>>> - Steve Harris, on behalf of the SPARQL WG. >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html >> FOAF : http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >> vCard : http://www.ivan-herman.net/HermanIvan.vcf >> > -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 PGP Key: http://www.ivan-herman.net/pgpkey.html FOAF : http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf vCard : http://www.ivan-herman.net/HermanIvan.vcf
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