- From: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:18:49 +0100
- To: RDF Data Access Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Minutes of RDF DAWG telecon 2004-07-27 for review Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0170.html IRC: http://www.w3.org/2004/07/27-dawg-irc 1. Convene, take roll, review record, agenda Attendees: Tom Adams, Dave Beckett, Kendall Clark, Dan Connolly, Yoshio Fukushige, Jos De Roo, Eric Prud'Hommeaux, Howard Katz, Simon Raboczi, Janne Saarela, Hiroyuki Sato, Andy Seaborne, Rob Shearer, Bryan Thompson, Kevin Wilkinson Regrets: Steve Harris, Farrukh Najmi, Alberto Reggiori Scribe: Dave Beckett The minutes of 2004-07-20 telcon http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0151.html with amendments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0159.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0169.html were APPROVED Next meeting: Tuesday 2004-08-03 14:30 UTC, EricP to scribe Telcon 2004-08-10 14:30 is CANCELLED, RobS and EricP abstained Future regrets were given for: 2004-08-10 (cancelled) JosD, HiroyukiS 2004-08-17 AndyS, YoshioF, DaveB? 2004-08-24 YoshioF ACTION EricP: find out the schedule of the 2005 W3C tech plenary and inform the WG so that we can plan ftf meetings after September. CONTINUED ACTION DanC: follow up to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0129.html CONTINUED 2. Test development/maintenance ACTION JosD: discuss test suite documentation and maintenance with Steve, EricP, AndyS, ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0165.html DONE An IRC meeting was held as has been as reported in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/att-0162/asdf and will expected to continued (more IRC meetings, more document work) with reports to the list. An outline of given of how the WG could address and decide issues, hopefully with tests that get added to the set, recording decision points and status of tests. 3. Web Services Directory use cases ACTION: JimH, to work with Bijan to do some sort of UDDI/Web services use case CONTINUED ACTION: RobS write email to Farrukh about traversing a taxonomy, continues. CONTINUED 9. Union query SimonR presented discussion of his proposed words for UC4.5 "Aggregate Query" more focused on union query: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0188.html Suggestion to reuse the RDF Semantics REC definition of "graph merge" Discussion of graph merging and scalability problems, distributed graphs and the comparison of the two things - 1. querying of graph merge 2. applying a query to multiple graphs ACTION SimonR: continue discussing and promoting union query for UC4.5 CONTINUED 10. Federation use case Discussion of the federation use case given in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0183.html by Eric Prud'hommeaux. EricP intended it to motivate two things: 1) targetting the query to multiple sources 2) the union of the graphs rather than the union of the results 4. Toward updated Use Cases and Requirements publication ACTION Kendall: remove 4.4 User-specifiable Serialization DONE ACTION KendallC: draft revision, toward updating our public WD, delivery ~next wed. DONE ACTION: RobS to review the document when complete. CONTINUED ACTION Simon+Kendall elaborate the rel. of rules and "construct" in the UC&R doc. CONTINUED ACTION SimonR: offer a replacement for 4.5 focussed on union query. DONE (Agenda item 9 of this meeting, see above) ACTION ericP: send federation use case motivating premises (in Algae) DONE (Agenda item 10 of this meeting, see above) (earlier) Kendall noted he was had 3 possible "last minute adds" to the UC&R doc before the next publication: Simon's rewrite of 4.5, federated use case and limited complexity requirement / objective. RESOLVED to publish UC&R ala 1.128 + edits drafted by kendall, reviewed by RobS and HowardK, and OK'd by EricP Seconded SimonR, no abstains, no against. 11. Replies to DAWG comments - ChrisW, Bjoern Discussed comments received from: Chris Wilper http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Jul/0000.html Bjoerern Hoehrmann http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2004Jun/0004.html ACTION: TomA: draft replies to Chris Wilper and Bjoerern Hoehrmann and send the drafts to the WG mailing list. CONTINUED (amended) 5. SOURCE, "provenance"/data-management" ACTION Jos: explain log:includes to inform the discussion of SOURCE (nee provenance) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0164.html DONE ACTION DanC: explain evolution of log:semantics/log:includes from uri-is-graph to uri-is-doc in cwm, to inform discussion of SOURCE CONTINUED ACTION DaveB: explain the main uses seen for redland contexts with respect to the provenance CONTINUED ACTION DaveB: propose an way to address the SOURCE issue 6. Issue: DESCRIBE ACTION AndyS: explain DESCRIBE design implicit in BRQL spec. DONE in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/0144.html RobS asked which UC motivated the describe feature, which was primarily the motorcycle parts UC. EricP reported he found coding against the TAP style API hard given the results are undefined, this is a describe-like feature. SimonR noted that it was one way of solving the difficulty of returning a graph with blank nodes, something like describe is one way to handle it. returning blank ndes ACTION SimonR: write about the "returning bnodes from a query" issue ACTION AndyS: write about the querying collections and returning collections issues 7. XQuery integration requirements/objective ACTION SimonR: write a document discussing tradeoffs with adapting XQuery as an RDF query language for discussion thru the September meeting in Bristol. CONTINUED ACTION DanC: notify Semantic Web CG of risks around the "1.5 Relationship with XQuery" scope of our charter. CONTINUED Discussion of implementing the design that was discussed at the F2F in Carlsbad, see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ftf2#xqfa The WG noted with interest AndyS's document: Making RDF Data Available for XML processing http://jena.hpl.hp.com/~afs/RDF-XML.html 8. Spec development Already discussed. Meeting adjourned 15:50 UTC
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