- From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:11:58 -0400
- To: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
- Cc: W3C RDB2RDF <public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org>, Boris Villazon-Terrazas <bvillazon@fi.upm.es>
oi! found this under "drafts" (which means that my phone elected not
to send it because it enjoys the feeling of power it holds over my
communication).
On Jun 20, 2012 4:27 AM, "Michael Hausenblas"
<michael.hausenblas@deri.org> wrote:
>
>
> > there was a resolution about this yesterday?
>
> We agreed to use http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDB2RDF/SQL_Version_IRIs - maybe Eric and Richard can quickly confirm that we're good to go?
I don't think there is an implementable solution yet as the question
of how to deal with version numbers is still open.
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
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> On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:22, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > there was a resolution about this yesterday?
> >
> > Boris
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> Resent-From: public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org
> >> From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
> >> Subject: Re: issues with RDB engines/dialects IRIs for EARL results
> >> Date: June 19, 2012 8:28:56 PM GMT+02:00
> >> To: public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org
> >>
> >> On 6/19/12 1:01 PM, Ted Thibodeau Jr wrote:
> >>> All --
> >>>
> >>> See <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/RDB2RDF/SQL_Version_IRIs>.
> >>>
> >>> The current table lists --
> >>>
> >>> Language Version IRI
> >>> ================ ======================================
> >>> Core SQL:2008 http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#SQL2008
> >>> Oracle Database http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#Oracle
> >>> MySQL http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#MySQL
> >>> Microsoft SQL Server http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#MSSQLServer
> >>> HSQLDB http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#HSQLDB
> >>> PostgreSQL http://www.w3.org/ns/r2rml#PostgreSQL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I see a few moderately significant issues --
> >>>
> >>> 1. Engines not listed above which should be added to cover all
> >>> current WG member implementations/testing include Ingres,
> >>> Progress OpenEdge, DB2, Informix, Sybase ASE, Sybase SQL
> >>> Anywhere, OpenLink Virtuoso. (We are testing against all
> >>> of these.) There may well be more.
> >>
> >> Firebird should also be added.
> >>
> >> ODBC and JDBC are actually safer reference points than "Core SQL:2008" . We have to find a way to incorporate ODBC and JDBC bridges.
> >>
> >> Note: in our R2RML tests, all of the above work fine. Thus, nothing here is speculative.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2. There is a need to distinguish between versions of the above
> >>> engines (e.g., Oracle 8i, 9i, 10g, 11i; Microsoft SQL Server
> >>> 6, 7, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2012; MySQL 3, 4, 5; etc.), because
> >>> SQL:2008 is not supported by all current versions, never mind
> >>> all past versions, and R2RML/DM implementation support of
> >>> these engines/versions will therefore vary.
> >>>
> >>> I don't *think* we need to go down to build/binary version
> >>> level, but I do think we need to go down as far as major
> >>> release version of each dialect/engine.
> >>>
> >>> This *could* be done by removing "Version" entirely from the
> >>> above ("Core SQL:2008" is arguably not a version but a dialect
> >>> of its own) and requiring a version disclosure along with the
> >>> "Dialect" (which label I'd put in place of "Language Version"
> >>> above)... but that is potentially clumsy, and makes the simple
> >>> IRIs we've minted insufficient as identifiers.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 3. If we're going to keep a live results report page, then it
> >>> seems we'll need to keep a live identifiers page, such that
> >>> new engines can be added over time.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> For those of us to live and breathe RDBMS connectivity middleware, contributing to such a Wiki isn't going to be burdensome.
> >>
> >> Kingsley
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Ted
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> | Q: Are you sure?
> >>> | | A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
> >>> | | | Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Kingsley Idehen
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