Minutes of the 2010-01-18 telcon for the RDF2RDF WG

Hi all,

you can find the minutes at

I cleaned them very quickly but could not remember who talked at some
point so I let the "@@". I would like to say two or three things to
improve the quality of the minutes:
1. even if you are not the scribe, you can fix the mistakes by using
that king of regex: s/this has to be replaced/was replaced by that/ .
2. as a scribe, you can rely on other, just insert something like
@@string@@ whenever you didn't get something very well
3. Zakim manages a queue, please add yourself using q+ and wait for the
chair to let you speak. That will help the scribe to understand who is
speaking :-)

Please find below the black-and-white version of the minutes.


                      RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference

18 Jan 2011

   See also: [2]IRC log


          nyoung, +1.512.232.aaaa, juansequeda, +1.314.394.aabb, boris,
          mhausenblas, +1.662.000.aacc, Alexandre, cygri, +25430004aadd,
          soeren, nunolopes

          ericP, Ashok, Ivan, Herman, Marcelo, Souri, Seema, Harry




     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]admin: Accept the minutes of last meeting
         2. [5]Review of R2RML Test Cases
         3. [6]R2RML status
         4. [7]Direct Mapping status
         5. [8]AOB
     * [9]Summary of Action Items

   <trackbot> Date: 18 January 2011

   <nyoung> I'm gonna hang up my phone and listen at David's desk

admin: Accept the minutes of last meeting

   PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting

   <boris> +1



   <boris> [10]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91

   <mhausenblas> ACTION-91?

   <trackbot> ACTION-91 -- Michael Hausenblas to move accepted TC from
   wiki to [11]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/ -- due
   2011-01-25 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91

Review of R2RML Test Cases


   boris, I just updated the wiki page


   <boris> [15]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests/

   scribe: Eric, betehess and I set up a repository to store the files
   related to the test cases

   <mhausenblas> Michael: suggest to create a new page
   [16]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases and have only
   protocol there

   mhausenblas: great job
   ... you might want to create a new page

   <Zakim> betehess, you wanted to comment quickly on the repository

   betehess: the repository is write-enabled for this WG

   mhausenblas: boris, please describe the architecture

   <mhausenblas> ACTION-81?

   <trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Juan Sequeda to and Eric to draft Direct
   Mapping TC -- due 2011-01-25 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/81

   boris: 81 is still opened

R2RML status

   mhausenblas, richard has 5 actions :-)

   richard: no update for me

   mhausenblas: any comment?

   richard: I have a file ready to be turned of into issues
   ... will do whenever I have time

   mhausenblas: any other comments?

   dmcneil: I have an issue with escaping the { }



   <nateyoung> that was David McNeil from Revelytix

   dmcneil: the document has not addressed that at the moment
   ... we had a problem during the implementation

   <nateyoung> he's on the phone, I'm on the IRC :)

Direct Mapping status

   juansequeda: we should go back on track this week
   ... I believe that MacTed had to do a review

   mhausenblas: he is not around
   ... but any progress?

   juansequeda: hopefully next week

   mhausenblas: questions for all the editors
   ... I quite often go through the ML



   mhausenblas: here is a link to a discussion between ericP, betehess,
   ... regarding set vs multiset
   ... I'm not that deep in what in means
   ... but I'd like to understand if this needs an issue for that

   juansequeda: not sure if that need a issue
   ... I'll look at that that

   <mhausenblas> [20]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/

   juansequeda: ok to check an action on this issue

   mhausenblas: ok to split in many issues
   ... and one on the multiset issue
   ... so we can speak about that next week

   betehess: please use the ML so we can help you :-)
   ... especially because ericP and I initiated the thread

   juansequeda: will do

   <mhausenblas> ISSUE-X

   mhausenblas: please remember to include the issue number in ML
   ... actually whenever we talk about an issue, like IRC
   ... there might be another action item

   <mhausenblas> ACTION-89?

   <trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Michael Hausenblas to create a Linked Data
   issue and draft proposal to address -- due 2011-01-25 -- OPEN

   <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/89

   mhausenblas: that was part of one of my actions

   <mhausenblas> ISSUE-7?

   <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Linked Data aspects for mapping RDB2RDF --

   <trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/7

   mhausenblas: on ISSUE-7

   <mhausenblas> [23]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues

   mhausenblas: I would like to formally propose to open this issue

   <mhausenblas> close ACTION-89

   <trackbot> ACTION-89 Create a Linked Data issue and draft proposal to
   address closed

   mhausenblas: so the WG can acknoledge officially this issue

   <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: To accept the ISSUE-7


   <juansequeda> +1

   <cygri> +1

   mhausenblas: maybe someone want to take over?

   RESOLUTION: the WG accepts the ISSUE-7




   <mhausenblas> [25]http://www.example.com/r2rml?string=Paris

   juansequeda: I would like to speak about hhalpin email
   ... we raised this topic a long time ago
   ... as the input will always a string
   ... how to deambiguite
   ... I'm curious to know what people think about it
   ... maybe a solution or an idea?

   mhausenblas: if you have a string, you have to make sure that these
   URIs match their expectation

   @@: I believe it's another topic

   scribe: out of the scope of this group

   juansequeda: I agree
   ... "it's your problem"

   mhausenblas: ok but how can we formalize that?
   ... as we have to come up with a solution easy enough
   ... like in term of expectations
   ... I don't know, but it's part of the challenge there
   ... it's in the charter

   @@: maybe with user defined functions that output in RDF?

   juansequeda: with the function call approach, you may have a problem
   with the reverse function needed for SPARQL for example
   ... if you search about a specific URI

   <mhausenblas> Michael: I'm happy to take an action on this to review
   existing approaches incl. DBpedia and Uberblic lookup, Triplify way,
   OKKAM, etc and report on the options via the Wiki

   juansequeda: so it may need to work both ways

   mhausenblas: it makes sense that I take an action on that
   ... and see what people out there actually do

   <mhausenblas> ACTION: soeren to create Wiki page with options for
   disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [recorded
   in [26]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - soeren

   <mhausenblas> ACTION: Auer to create Wiki page with options for
   disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [recorded
   in [27]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Create Wiki page with options for
   disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [on Sören
   Auer - due 2011-01-25].

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: Auer to create Wiki page with options for
   interface for well-known entities identifier [recorded in
   [NEW] ACTION: soeren to create Wiki page with options for
   disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [recorded
   in [29]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]

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   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-irc
   3. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#agenda
   4. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#item01
   5. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#item02
   6. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#item03
   7. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#item04
   8. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#item05
   9. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#ActionSummary
  10. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91
  11. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
  12. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91
  13. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1
  14. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1
  15. https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests/
  16. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases
  17. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/81
  20. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/
  21. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/89
  22. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/7
  23. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues
  25. http://www.example.com/r2rml?string=Paris
  26. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01
  27. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02
  28. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02
  29. http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01
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